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Re:Uber ordered to stop self-driving vehicle service in San ... by yazaddaruvala on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @08:44PM (#13181628)
Isn't it a fun fact that throughout history, (barring the morally exceptional[0]) each human only ever chose to do things that were in their best interest. However, since humans existed, we have continually seen a consistent improvement[1] in the average human's life.

[0] Funny thing about the morally exceptional: I can't think of any which continue to improve our current day-to-day lives.

[1] Improvement is subjective. But objectively (compared to centuries past), our housing situation has gotten better (more roofs, less exposure to the cold/heat), the average human doesn't worry about getting sick from bad water or getting bitten by a snake while in their bed, the average human dies less to disease and overall dies at a later age, and the average human is able to spend more time on hobbies rather than necessities.

Re:Uber ordered to stop self-driving vehicle service in San ... by kuschku on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:54PM (#13182258)
Regardimg [0]: The entire open source industy. Voluntary fire brigades. And so on.

I'm surprised you ignore all those so easily.

Re:Uber ordered to stop self-driving vehicle service in San ... by yazaddaruvala on Thursday December 15, 2016 @01:57PM (#13187121)
As you said yourself: "open source industry"

Voluntary fire brigades, et al:

My bad on the miscommunication, I was talking about "throughout history": As a result what I meant was: I can't think of any [morally exceptional people] which [past their own lifetimes] continue to improve our current day-to-day lives.

You are correct though that morally exceptional people do have a (slight) positive impact to my day-to-day. I just haven't seen a case where their contributions transcended time. Similar to the contributions of say: Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Bell, person who first repeatedly sparked fire, etc.

The contributions of religious figures transcend time. But you could argue either way about their contributions being beneficial to our day-to-day. Again it would be debatable if it was in the best interest of these religious figures to spread their personal ideology. Either of these debates would be inherently biased towards your take on religion.

Re:Uber ordered to stop self-driving vehicle service in San ... by morgante on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @11:49PM (#13182509)
> The entire open source industy.

The open source industry is far from unbridled altruism.

Re:Uber ordered to stop self-driving vehicle service in San ... by djrogers on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @11:45PM (#13182485)
> Voluntary fire brigades.

It's entirely rational to join a VFD out of self interest.

Re:Uber ordered to stop self-driving vehicle service in San ... by TeMPOraL on Thursday December 15, 2016 @03:03AM (#13183189)
And yet what you do in VFD is very often against your own self interest - you sacrifice a lot of time, and sometimes risk your health and life, and all you get for yourself is bragging rights.
Re:Uber ordered to stop self-driving vehicle service in San ... by djrogers on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:58PM (#13186566)
> all you get for yourself is bragging rights.

Not at all! You get the knowledge that the men and women standing beside you at an emergency will be there when it's your house/barn/grain silo that goes up.