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Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by shakna on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @01:46AM (#13174307)
I had a secondary spleen, nestled right up against my main one that I tore completely in half in primary school.

Subsequent testing over the next five years showed it, sadly, failed to become active.

For people like me, getting your inoculations is imperative. Annual gp visits help keep it in check.

As for the rest, depending on herd immunity is the answer.

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by niels_olson on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @01:25PM (#13178323)
Hey, those innoculations aren't the end of the story. I was involved with a patient who went swimming in a waterfall pool in Hawaii and came down with leptospirosis. He didn't mention to his primary care provider that he'd had a splenectomy (and the provider documented other surgical history, so not sure why he omitted that, probably just forgot).

His 9 friends didn't get sick. But they had spleens. He ended up intubated in the ICU and became sufficiently well known in certain circles that I have had conversations with doctors involved in his care on both coasts. Which means he was a terribly interesting patient.

You never, ever want to be an interesting patient...

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by pacaro on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @01:42PM (#13178492)
Leptospirosis is seriously nasty. I know kayakers who've had doctors not take their risk level seriously ("Hi doc, I was kayaking in this nasty canal and now I have flu like symptoms, please check for leptospirosis", "Nah, leptospirosis is rare and the test are expensive"). An extended stay in ICU resulted for a couple of them.
Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by shakna on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @04:02PM (#13179626)
I got in a journal after my splenectomy! Being a fascinating subject was bad. 5 weeks in ICU bad.

It's always one of the first things I bring up with a doctor, relevant or not, because without a spleen, my immunity is compromised.

As my GP said, "This stops most people from getting whooping cough, it'll stop you dying from it."

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by david-given on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @04:35PM (#13179871)
...I have to ask (of course, you don't need to answer): how did you tear your spleen in half? After all, most organs go on the inside, and are fairly well protected...
Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by shakna on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @05:06PM (#13180085)
Unfortunately I have no cool story to tell. Most people who lose a spleen are in a motorbike or car accident.

Me? I fell onto the wooden edging of a playground with just the right angle, and just the right force to rupture it. Somehow, it was cleanly torn in half.

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by david-given on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @05:44PM (#13180396)
Oh well --- you can't win 'em all, I suppose. For certain very specialist meanings of the word 'win'?

When I was about six or seven I fell over in the playground, sliding on ice, and managed to hit the side of my right wrist against the edge of a concrete slab, and gave myself a greenstick fracture. Despite complaining that it hurt, the teachers at the school didn't think there was anything wrong with me, and it was only after school that my father felt my wrist and decided there was a notch there, and I went to the hospital.

That wasn't the most annoying bit. The most annoying bit was that, while spending the day at school writing with a broken arm, all the teachers commented on how much my handwriting had improved.

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by shakna on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @08:17PM (#13181470)
Ow. That'd irritate the crap out of me.

My teachers weren't sure how to treat me on return: I was still re-learning walking, after being bed-ridden for 5 weeks. So some kind of let me get away with anything, and the others expected me to try harder to catch up.

But again: The school didn't think there was anything wrong with me at first, probably just winded. Then I started puking blood everywhere. Great way to get people to actually listen to a kid.

Also, what is it with not trusting kids with pain? I developed pains in my leg in Year 9. More than a decade later, and my specialists think that was the first symptom of either MS or one of the fibro family.

I know lots of kids complain about minor aches and pains... But give it a bit of attention would you?

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by JshWright on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @08:00PM (#13181365)
The spleen is a solid organ. Imagine squeezing a solid ball made of foam or gelatin. It will tear as you squeeze it, as it can't flatten out like a hollow sphere could (i.e. your stomach, intestines, etc).

You have a number of solid organs, but the spleen and the liver are the most commonly injured, due to their positions on opposite sides of your abdomen.

Splenic ruptures are fairly common with serious abdominal trauma. There is even a grading system...

http://www.aast.org/Library/TraumaTools/InjuryScoringScales....

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by shakna on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @08:12PM (#13181438)
How common without serious abdominal trauma? I didn't bruise, tear any muscles or crack any ribs or anything of the like. That kind of stat might give me something to brag about, not like a crappy immune system is something to be proud of.

The grading system is kinda cool. Unfortunately I can't use behind my current WiFi away from home. Maybe you can tell me how I did: The spleen was horizontally rupture into two pieces.

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by JshWright on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @08:29PM (#13181548)
It's not that uncommon to have little to no bruising. One of the more common signs is actually pain in the left shoulder[1]

As far as the grading of your spleen... It depends on whether the major vessels leading into the spleen were torn or not, but it certainly sounds like you had a grade 4 or 5 tear (on a scale of 1 to 5).

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehr's_sign

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by shakna on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @08:37PM (#13181587)
That's really interesting, aren't nerves wonderful things?

4 or 5 sounds about right, I lost something around 2 quarts of blood, though that may have more been due to inaction.

All I remember from the ultrasound was thinking the red was really pretty, and then vomiting.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it's fascinating stuff.

Re:The spleen, the strange little organ that can multiply by JshWright on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:18PM (#13182112)
Two quarts is getting very close to irreversible shock territory, so nice job not dying.

EDIT: Upon rereading... If you were in primary school, then two quarts would represent a very large fraction of your total blood volume (like, anywhere from 70 to 120%). You'd be very firmly in 'dead' territory at that point (assuming they weren't simultaneously putting more in)