Re:AMD Gives More Zen Details
by Blackthorn on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @09:45PM
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Short AMD has been the only real drag on my otherwise excellent trades this year. I've learned my lesson -- I won't short a growth stock anymore.
That said, puts were fairly cheap so I took some as my last gasp effort to see if AMD actually tanked.
Theyre digging in "what kind of brokerage work do you do" and then asking very pointed money-market questions.
When you get to "Suggestions" they aren't suggestions; they force you to enter multiple stocks.
So fuck them. Here's a Copy/Paste.
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Summary
In my previous article I showed how speculation going into Zen's launch greatly exceeded speculation going into the Athlon and Opteron launches.
In this article, I take the comparisons further.
I compare both the revenues expected/attained by AMD and the market caps into the 3 launches.
The Investors of today like AMD nearly 4x better than when Opteron (or Athlon, for that matter) was looking pretty.
My thesis on Advanced Micro Devices (NYSE:AMD) is as follows:
With that being put out of the way, I'm writing this article because I think the prior one didn't quite filter through. From the comments, one would guess that the message "AMD is much more speculative going into Zen than going into Athlon or Opteron" didn't register. The criticism was far and wide, including such things as: Well, I feel I need to give some more detail here. This detail will show that sentiment today is even more extraordinary than what the previous charts showed. So here we go.Revenues, Now And Then
Over the last 12 months, AMD has produced $4.24 billion in revenues. For 2017, including the early Zen launch, expectations are for $4.55 billion in revenues. Now, remember:
Why is this revenue number relevant? Consider the following regarding the past two episodes I mentioned: In short, AMD's revenues were larger in both those years, versus those expected for 2017 including Zen. This includes Zen, GPUs and everything else, thus rendering the arguments that AMD is "much more" today completely moot.Market Capitalization, Now And Then
In my previous article I compared just the relative share prices going into product launches. Of course, AMD has had many losses and M&A (acquiring ATI) throughout the years. This naturally led to a much higher share count today, versus what it was back in 1999/2003. How much higher?
Now consider the following: It's easy to see that AMD's market cap today is wildly higher than what it was back then (1999, 2003). That is, while the share price isn't much different, due to the share count AMD today is valued at a significant multiple of AMD right before either the Athlon or Opteron were launched.Conclusion
From this exercise we see that:
Thus, it isn't hard to conclude that the AMD of today is massively more speculative than the AMD of either 1999 or 2003. All the arguments that it has more products now are also rather irrelevant when we consider that today's AMD is still expected to be smaller than the AMD which resulted from those past (successful) launches. Never mind that we're comparing numbers after a verified success (1999, 2003), to an uncertain success (2017).Finally, yes, AMD is more diversified today. However, AMD isn't potentially more profitable because back in 1999/2003 it controlled its own foundry and now it doesn't. Instead, right now AMD has contracts which try to assure the foundry's economic returns, while punishing AMD's.
All of this being factual, what we can easily say is that today AMD's stock discounts improvements wildly in excess of the analysts' expectations. If those improvements don't materialize -- well in excess of expectations -- the stock will have very significant downside.
Disclosure: I/we have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours.
I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.