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Re:Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them by tptacek on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:46PM (#13171948)
That is terrifying logic, because it applies equally well to pretty much any person that happens to be in the public eye. I could generate a "pizza related" pedophile ring conspiracy theory about Paul Graham, and someone like you could step up and say "well maybe it's true because the media doesn't take pedophile rings seriously and a lot of people at the Pentagon had child porn".

A normal person does not look the underlying fact pattern and say "maybe something is going on there". But it's easy for trolls to decontextualize and distort --- well, we're down to "pizza shops" now, so I guess the words we're looking for are "anything at all" --- to force people to wonder whether there might be something going on.

Because of course: something is going on: crazy Internet trolls are trying to frame strangers for pedophilia.

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Re:Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them by throwaway420 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @07:23PM (#13172679)
> Because of course: something is going on: crazy Internet trolls are trying to frame strangers for pedophilia.

Frame is the absolute wrong word. Nobody is framing anybody. It's an investigation: and one that's limited to looking at public records and internet articles and social media accounts and the like.

I know that the New York Times has already decided the idea of a pedophile ring involving some powerful people to be double-plus "fake news", but its current CEO Mark Thompson literally helped cover up the crimes of child abuser Jimmy Savile for the BBC, so should we just take their word for it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/10...

> The author of a controversial inquiry into the handling of the Jimmy Savile scandal at the BBC has suggested that a former director-general lied when giving evidence, according to a tape recording. Nick Pollard was asked by a journalist during a taped conversation if Mr Thompson's "instinct" was to "lie" during questioning when he appeared before the inquiry. Mr Pollard replied: "Yes. Well... yeah, yeah."

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Re:Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them by tptacek on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @07:47PM (#13172817)
Once again: there is nobody in the world we couldn't direct this kind of "investigation" at. It's literally --- I mean literally in its original sense --- an investigation guided by Urban Dictionary. Did you not have 9th grade English class at your high school? I saw Lizzy Proctor speaking with the devil!
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Re:Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them by throwaway420 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @08:20PM (#13172989)
> there is nobody in the world we couldn't direct this kind of "investigation" at.

Most people post a lot of Instagram pics with hashtags like chickenlovers on pics of kids? Frankly, I don't think most people act in this way. I'm no stranger to twisted humor, but the weirdness level with this is off the charts if you just look at (formerly) public Instagram posts and artwork.

Again, being weird isn't a crime, and all that's happening is people looking at some of these connections and past history about them. There's a lot of smart folks who are convinced something is being covered up.

Even though Pizzagate emerged this year through Wikileaks, some of these allegations have gone on for a while. This is extremely interesting: back from Andrew Breitbart in 2011.

https://twitter.com/AndrewBreitbart/status/33636278100561920

> How prog-guru John Podesta isn't household name as world class underage sex slave op cover-upperer defending unspeakable dregs escapes me.

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Re:Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them by pcwalton on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @08:26PM (#13173022)
> There's a lot of smart folks who are convinced something is being covered up.

There were a lot of very smart Truthers and Birthers too.

> I'm no stranger to twisted humor, but the weirdness level with this is off the charts if you just look at (formerly) public Instagram posts and artwork.

Person who owns a pizza restaurant takes pictures of people who attended his restaurant! How shocking!

How anybody can even remotely consider "pizzagate" credible is beyond me.

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Re:Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them by tptacek on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @08:26PM (#13173017)
It's a vast conspiracy, and only only the brilliant minds on r/The_Donald could uncover it. Not local law enforcement, not the FBI. Just Internet people and their intuitions about Instagram.

New day dawning.

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