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Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by Florin_Andrei on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @02:51PM (#13170252)
> I'm not a huge fan of UBI since I think that makes people slaves of their State.

When America will be able to shake off its own mythology about this notion of the "State" as an inherently bad actor - then, perhaps, America will be able to get out of the current rut it's stuck in.

Yes, the "State" can be bad (I should know, I grew up in an actual bad "State" in the Eastern Bloc before the revolutions). But at the other extreme, societies can sabotage themselves from within, trigger the social equivalent of an autoimmune disease, and collapse from endemic distrust in the system - which to me is pretty clearly the direction America is going now.

There surely is a better middle ground somewhere.

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by ams6110 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @09:33PM (#13173337)
America was founded on the notion that the state is a bad actor.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by BigJono on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @04:58AM (#13174913)
And it will fall on that notion too if it fails to adapt to a changing economy.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by Florin_Andrei on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @02:30PM (#13178935)
> > America was founded on the notion that the state is a bad actor.

> And it will fall on that notion too if it fails to adapt to a changing economy.

I agree with both statements.