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Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by elblanco on Monday May 03, 2010 @10:51PM (#1316845)
It would be an interesting investigation into why Chrome and Firefox have done so well in growth and Opera (a quite nice browser) never seems to have done well.
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by chaosmachine on Monday May 03, 2010 @10:55PM (#1316852)
Google pushes Chrome on the front page of Google.com. And they pushed Firefox for a few years before Chrome.

Also, Opera has a terrible name in comparison to the competition. Makes word of mouth less effective. That's also my theory on MySQL vs Postgres.

Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by tocomment on Monday May 03, 2010 @11:09PM (#1316884)
I'd kind of agree with you on the names. I can't even pronounce Postgres so I tend to sit quietly instead of recommending it when the topic comes up.

I'll be sure to run my next product name by you.

Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by mattyb on Tuesday May 04, 2010 @10:25AM (#1318088)
Just listen to this: http://twit.tv/floss18

TL;DL: It's Post-Grez-Que-Ell

Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by jsankey on Monday May 03, 2010 @11:40PM (#1316970)
Google also advertises Chrome in the Real World - e.g. several London tube stations are plastered with Chrome ads. I've not seen anything that high profile for Opera.
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by jsz0 on Monday May 03, 2010 @11:26PM (#1316939)
Lots of little reasons probably. Didn't Opera have those built-in toolbar banner advertisements for a long time? That probably didn't help. I agree the naming has always been a problem. Not that Firefox, Chrome or Safari are more descriptive names but they at least do not associate themselves with an art form that is generally considered to be lame or elitist. (not sure I agree but that's the perception in the US at least) Then again, to this day, a lot of people seem to think it's actually pronounced Oprah which is probably equally confusing but less negative to most people.
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by Goladus on Monday May 03, 2010 @11:13PM (#1316896)
I tried Opera once a long time ago and it had ads in the browser. I became a firefox user and never looked back. Subsequently, firefox was the browser I'd recommend, etc..
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by dangoldin on Tuesday May 04, 2010 @12:15AM (#1317046)
It's interesting how that one experience completely changed your perception of Opera even now. Definitely applicable to startup life - don't take the easy monetization, it may come back to haunt you.
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by Goladus on Wednesday May 05, 2010 @07:50PM (#1323045)
To be clear, I have no opinion about Opera now. My negative opinion expired a long time ago. Opera is merely one of the "browsers I don't use" in the same category as Konqueror, Safari, and Epiphany.

What it did was lose me at the only point it ever mattered for a product with a long life. Firefox has satisfied my needs since, and I've never had the will to evaluate Opera again.

Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by elblanco on Tuesday May 04, 2010 @04:32AM (#1317482)
I agree. I think that there are all kinds of lessons to be learned from the Opera experiment, which is why I asked the question.
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by houseabsolute on Monday May 03, 2010 @11:55PM (#1316996)
I think Opera has historically focused on features that power users find interesting, maybe because most of their user-base is power users. But that has negative implications for mainstream adoption.
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by megablast on Tuesday May 04, 2010 @01:21AM (#1317163)
I disagree. Opera was also the browser than could fit on a 1.44mb floppy, it was always had the smallest footprint of browsers, as well as memory. The problem was the in the wild west of the web, a lot of pages didn't work quite right on Opera. So you always had to have IE or Netscape handy.
Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by houseabsolute on Tuesday May 04, 2010 @02:12AM (#1317255)
> it was always had the smallest footprint of browsers, as well as memory

So . . . features for power users, right?

> didn't work quite right on Opera

Sounds like something power users put up with more readily than most other people.

> have IE or Netscape handy.

Using more than one browser is something power users do.

Re:Chrome continues surge as IE drops below 60% market share by elblanco on Tuesday May 04, 2010 @04:34AM (#1317486)
>So you always had to have IE or Netscape handy.

That's a very interesting point. I guess when Opera first came out, it didn't quite work right, IE and Netscape were the 800 pound gorillas fighting it out, and Firefox simply inherited the mindshare of Netscape. Opera was simply a third dancer in a waltz.