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Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by branchless on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:58PM (#13153159)
Mr Money Moustache has 2 or 3 rental properties which are wealth appropriating not wealth creating. He's using the wages of other families. He goes on about how $10 is a lot yet takes far, far more in rent each week.
Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by literallycancer on Sunday December 11, 2016 @07:42PM (#13154586)
What's wrong with renting properties?

>which are wealth appropriating not wealth creating

Literally everything anyone buys is paid for by a portion of their wealth, not sure what you are trying to say here.

Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by branchless on Sunday December 11, 2016 @07:45PM (#13154602)
Not sure where to start here. Are you suggesting money gained is a proxy for wealth created? It's the product of an imperfect system. Some people add more value than they are paid for, others the inverse. The system heavily favours economic rent extraction via land. Almost all new debt is issued via land.

Quite simply people have figured out it's a rigged game and are piling in, hence the asset bubble and the fallout effecting an entire generation, which perhaps you missed.

I'm not really interested in discussing this with you either as just pointing out things are paid for is just taking the existing system without any question as "correct".

Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by koonsolo on Monday December 12, 2016 @03:41AM (#13156584)
I understand what you are saying, but I think you are missing an important concept. If you created more value than you spend, you have an extra. Other people want to spend more than they created. So what happens is that people who have the extra, can loan their value to those who have a deficit. This loaning can also be considered a service. People are not forced into renting. What Mr. Money Mustache is saying is "Hey, don't be the guy with the deficit, be the guy with the surplus, because everyone with the deficit will work for those with the surplus". What I hear from US with all their credit cards, it seems it's a culture of spending way more than you earn. Spending money that you will receive at the end of the month. Which is pretty stupid.
Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by branchless on Monday December 12, 2016 @07:02AM (#13157445)
He's saying "i live frugally, be like me" then doing something that doesn't scale. We can't all be the landlord, rent seeking.
Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by koonsolo on Monday December 12, 2016 @09:22AM (#13158153)
He says: Earn a lot, spend little, invest the difference. Once the revenue of your investments covers your spending, retire. That's what he's saying. And the key is indeed living frugally, which makes it all easier. And yes, he rents out houses, that's his investment. I don't see anything wrong with this.

If everyone was a landlord, then that would be a pretty bad investment now would it?

Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by branchless on Monday December 12, 2016 @02:08PM (#13160833)
I disagree with his wealth appropriation and the idea that he is somehow living frugally whilst relying on that appropriation. Fundamentally we cannot all claim the labour of others using the system to force their hand.
Re:Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016? by loco5niner on Friday December 16, 2016 @01:11AM (#13191425)
> we cannot all claim the labour of others using the system to force their hand.

What does this even mean? He is providing a good/service, and people are willing to pay him for that good/service. He's not living off the pain and suffering of others...