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Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by blakesterz on Sunday December 11, 2016 @03:58PM (#13153158)
I always wonder if an open search algorithm would be better or worse? If Google let everyone see the magic, would outsiders be able to make it better so things like this don't happen? Would the white hats wing against the black hats if it was open to all?
Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by jdietrich on Sunday December 11, 2016 @05:13PM (#13153680)
Almost certainly worse. As it stands, SEOs fear Google and the webspam team like they're the Wizard of Oz. You have a strong incentive to follow the letter and the spirit of the webmaster guidelines, because you don't know exactly what's going on behind the curtain. Once you start bending the rules, you're living in fear of being banned.

If the algorithm was completely transparent, it would give a home-field advantage to spammy SEOs, who could operate at the absolute limit of what is permissible. Legitimate sites that lack the resources to aggressively manipulate their SEO would be at a substantial disadvantage.

To give a real-world analogy, imagine a department store that decides not to prosecute shoplifters caught with less than $20 worth of stolen goods. If the rule is kept secret, then it's a perfectly reasonable tradeoff between security and the cost of enforcement. If the rule is publicly known, then shoplifters can spend all day stealing $19.99 products with total impunity.

Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by praptak on Sunday December 11, 2016 @04:01PM (#13153183)
Why would that matter? Do you think Stormfront are somehow at advantage when it comes to gaming unpublished algorithms?
Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by gaius on Sunday December 11, 2016 @04:33PM (#13153418)
Given the Santorum thing, nope...
Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by wutbrodo on Sunday December 11, 2016 @06:23PM (#13154112)
I thought I knew what the Santorum thing being referenced here is, but maybe I'm wrong: how was Stormfront related in any way?
Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by gaius on Monday December 12, 2016 @02:17AM (#13156258)
The question was, do Stormfront have an advantage here, and the answer I gave was, no, because left-wingers have previously successfully manipulated Google's algorithm to a much greater extent.
Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by FT_intern on Sunday December 11, 2016 @04:59PM (#13153600)
no one would understand the algorithm
Re:Google is not just a platform – It frames, shapes and dis... by placeybordeaux on Sunday December 11, 2016 @05:42PM (#13153848)
We analyze and compare things that we don't understand all the time.