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Re:My search for a MacBook Pro alternative by epistasis on Friday December 09, 2016 @08:03PM (#13143320)
>The non-touch-bar Macbook Pro has no future

First of all, that's a big assumption. Second of all, even if it is true, it doesn't matter for the machine that you buy right now. It seems that people are mostly outraged that a laptop without F keys exists at all. Because even within the Apple line, people are not forced to buy laptops without F keys.

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Re:My search for a MacBook Pro alternative by hartator on Friday December 09, 2016 @09:47PM (#13143711)
It's not about the f keys. It's about the touch bar being gimmicky and a distraction when no out right annoying. I am typing on one right now. Even changing brightness or volume which should be better now, it's annoying because of UI lag. Get right of the F keys will have been better.
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Re:My search for a MacBook Pro alternative by epistasis on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:16AM (#13145972)
That's the first time that I've heard that perspective, everybody else I've heard complain has mentioned the lack of physical F keys.

UI-lag is annoying and inexcusable, very un-Apple like.

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Re:My search for a MacBook Pro alternative by n1000 on Sunday December 11, 2016 @04:57PM (#13153584)
Plus: Not having one single de facto standard USB port, no more MagSafe, no more optical audio out, apparently poor battery life, and an insane price tag.
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