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Re:Developers’ side projects by LeanderK on Friday December 09, 2016 @05:41PM (#13142508)
this is an absurd agreement, i have never heard of something like this in germany. Is this common in other countries?
Re:Developers’ side projects by codingdave on Friday December 09, 2016 @06:09PM (#13142674)
It is common in the US, yes. I've signed a few over the years. I always check the wording of the restrictions to be sure my side projects are clear. And most of the time, the legal counsel for your employer will let you explicitly add on projects as being excluded form the agreement, so you can continue to work on open source projects or prior inventions without having to worry about it.

I definitely recommend that people consult an attorney if they are concerned about the specifics of their own contract. The details of each situation can be quite different.

Re:Developers’ side projects by chiph on Friday December 09, 2016 @05:57PM (#13142605)
US employee here - I've signed one (plus a patents & inventions at one firm) at every firm I've worked at since 2000 or so. Thus far any side projects haven't been a problem for them, as I have made sure to target a different industry. But legally, they could have enforced the contract and taken possession of my code.
Re:Developers’ side projects by mindcrime on Friday December 09, 2016 @06:50PM (#13142937)
But legally, they could have enforced the contract and taken possession of my code.

Not necessarily. Depending on what state you live in, there's a good chance that agreement would violate state law and would be unenforceable.

Re:Developers’ side projects by maxxxxx on Friday December 09, 2016 @06:55PM (#13142958)
Even winning a lawsuit costs a lot of money and stress. Unless there is a law that makes courts throw out frivolous lawsuits immediately the employer with lawyers on staff still can make your life very difficult
Re:Developers’ side projects by mindcrime on Friday December 09, 2016 @06:56PM (#13142965)
No doubt. I'm certainly not claiming the current situation is ideal. Just pointing out that it's not always as bad as people think.
Re:Developers’ side projects by jasoncchild on Friday December 09, 2016 @06:10PM (#13142681)
Some employers allow a waiver against IP ownership of existing side projects related to the industry.
Re:Developers’ side projects by nraynaud on Friday December 09, 2016 @05:56PM (#13142600)
In France I had a separation in my contract, but I had to disclose and propose to sell my inventions to my employer first.
Re:Developers’ side projects by q3r3qr3q on Friday December 09, 2016 @06:05PM (#13142655)
Wait until you hear about non-compete agreements and such.
Re:Developers’ side projects by maerF0x0 on Friday December 09, 2016 @05:45PM (#13142534)
I have heard its common in Canada too
Re:Developers’ side projects by elt0n on Friday December 09, 2016 @06:14PM (#13142708)
Seems to be the case in France as well, i.e, devs don't own their side projects.
Re:Developers’ side projects by imafish on Saturday December 10, 2016 @06:12AM (#13145138)
Have heard of this happening in Denmark also but never experienced it myself.