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Re:De-Googleify Internet by anigbrowl on Friday December 09, 2016 @04:52PM (#13142164)
Freedom is wonderful, but we have a saying in the USA (from a famous court case): the rich as well as the poor are free to sleep under bridges. The meaning of this is that freedom without good resources is not actually that great.

After all, you could be completely free from Google and every other technological capitalist firm right now by throwing away your computer, phone and so on, and returning to ink and paper for your communication requirements. But of course you don't want to do that because it would entail a terrible loss of convenience, and every time you needed some information you would be forced to make a trip to the library or bookstore, or ask someone else to find the information for you etc. etc.. There is nothing ethically or psychologically bad about such a life - many of us are old enough to remember growing up that way - but it will put you at a severe economic and social disadvantage compared to virtually all of your peers.

In theory, I agree with you (and I mean that on many levels; I'm a devoted fan of Michel Foucault, for example). But I cannot eat theory, even if you consider it to be delicious cake.

Re:De-Googleify Internet by pierre_d528 on Friday December 09, 2016 @05:15PM (#13142331)
Here is something wonderfully tangible:

  Alan Kay and a couple of friends built an entire system in 2.8MB in 1998[1].
You can actually DO stuff with these techs: "How Smalltalk Enables World Record Breaking Performance"[2]

Guys behind V8 are smalltalkers.

Nothing "theoretical" here, just science. I do not care about pompous theory. For example, I do not believe in real numbers. I let "theory" to poets and most academics.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUud1gcbS9k [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx9dgLW9m7w

Re:De-Googleify Internet by anigbrowl on Friday December 09, 2016 @08:02PM (#13143319)
Many people here are politely explaining to you that these tools have great intentions but that they are poorly designed, and you respond with irrelevant assertions about performance records. It is as if people tell you that a velo is unsuitable for construction work, and you respond with praise of Romain Bardet.

This discussion is about 'Free, Decentralized, Ethical Internet built on Solidarity.' Who cares about record-breaking Smalltalk performance? It is irrelevant. None of your contributions to this discussion have added anything of value.

Re:De-Googleify Internet by pierre_d528 on Saturday December 10, 2016 @04:24AM (#13144855)
"Many people here are politely explaining to you that these tools have great intentions but that they are poorly designed,"

So, the "design" of the iPad is superior to the "design" of the Dynabook?

Despite paperless vision of the future thx to "software", usage of printers has just begun to stop growing.

Patronizing and blind or high priests of the "rentware" cult.

Re:De-Googleify Internet by KirinDave on Saturday December 10, 2016 @05:03PM (#13148187)
> So, the "design" of the iPad is superior to the "design" of the Dynabook?

Yes. For the audience in question the iPad is in fact a design superior in every dimension except perhaps the child who wants to write a long form novel and already knows how to physically touch type.

> Patronizing and blind or high priests of the "rentware" cult.

I highly doubt this forum is prepared or inclined to have a conversation about your orthodoxy or how market forces interact with it. Certainly I'm done.

But good luck to you.