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Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by hughw on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:29PM (#13134475)
"Finder (nee Archive Utility) should just execute the task without any visual feedback" -- no.
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by hbosch on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:54PM (#13134639)
I agree there should be visual feedback, but maybe more of a compromise. E.g. bundle all unzip tasks into 1 single progress bar and rotate text strings for informing which task is underway.

The "dancing" modal is quite ridiculous.

Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by wruza on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:51PM (#13135054)
If operation takes more than human's average reaction time, progress should be shown. Usually 250ms. Jef Raskin and others wrote a bookshelf about that a decade ago, but I still see strange solutions everywhere.
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by aidenn0 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @11:48PM (#13136745)
In this case it's showing a 24 progress bars each for an item that takes less than 1ms.
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by nayuki on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:06PM (#13134731)
This is basically what happens in third-party tools. For example if you use 7-Zip on Windows to unzip multiple archives, there is only one progress window and progress bar, and it will display the names of each archive being extracted one after another.
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by hyperpape on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:35PM (#13134520)
I also thought that was wrong. One idea is a progress window if the task takes more than a few seconds, plus some visual indicator for success.
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by blt on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:50PM (#13134616)
This isn't a dichotomy. It's possible to make a fast-performing GUI for this task. The GUI is slow due to poor engineering.
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by hyperpape on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:55PM (#13134649)
That's true, but I'd argue that a window that appears and disappears within substantially less than one second is often a bad idea anyway. Progress indicators are for things you wait on.
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by kalleboo on Friday December 09, 2016 @05:37AM (#13137923)
Apple disagrees - the Finder already handles this without any visual feedback for file copy operations - you don't get a file copy progress dialog if it takes less time than you need to react (just an audio confirmation).
Re:The Finder’s GUI tax can be very expensive by pvdebbe on Friday December 09, 2016 @01:53AM (#13137165)
J Nielsen would disagree with you. A subsecond operation could very well operate without visual feedback and only after that start showing the progress. Does finder have a way to show messages in status bar or some such? For quick ops it would be ideal to say, "operation completed".