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Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by rqebmm on Thursday December 08, 2016 @01:56PM (#13133003)
Valve also has the prestige of being a high-profile gaming company, which brings with it choice pick of engineers. A "normal" enterprise app consulting shop doesn't have the luxury of every computer geek clamoring to work there.

If you have first-pick of incoming talent, it makes sense that you can get away with giving those employees an extremely high degree of autonomy.

Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by kohanz on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:15PM (#13134371)
Is that really true though? I remember when me and my engineering peers were in our teens, some of us dreamed of working for a gaming company, but now that we're older no one does. Most actually have a very negative perception of employment conditions in that industry.
Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by dpc59 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:30PM (#13134479)
The reason why there is a negative perception of employment conditions is because employment conditions are not very good, and they're not very good because a lot of people want to work in the industry.
Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by kohanz on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:36PM (#13134529)
Yes, but that demand isn't coming from everyone, it's coming from a certain demographic (young people that are into games). Having your pick from that demographic is far from having "choice pick" when it comes to the overall talent pool. And we haven't even talked about attrition.
Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by milcron on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:49PM (#13134610)
I for one would prefer to avoid the gaming industry, but would not turn down the opportunity to work at Valve.
Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by chipperyman573 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @06:03PM (#13135128)
Game development is what gives the games industry a bad name. While valve is supposedly working on a few new games now[0] and updating 3 of their older games (tf2/dota 2/cs:go), it would be entirely possible to work exclusively on Steam (their online store) and never touch game code, especially with their rolling desks that literally roll so you move to whatever department you want, whenever you want.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fSt7BjJ29c

Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by jon-wood on Friday December 09, 2016 @02:41AM (#13137326)
My perception is that Valve are the exception to that rule. They've got the money on tap from Steam, meaning their game development side is more of a hobby than anything else, giving a lot of freedom to the teams working on new games. I could believe it's a bit less rosy working on new hats for their Avatar Dressup games.
Re:Google Makes So Much Money, It Never Had to Worry About F... by SXX on Saturday December 10, 2016 @06:19AM (#13145162)
Actually Valve no longer make these "hats". Most of items that included in content updates are created by the community.