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Re:'Clean your desk': My Amazon interview experience by conanbatt on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:25PM (#13132078)
What would be the point of assessing an isolated individual in a world of collaboration?

Its akin to evaluating how someone would do something in the middle of the jungle without tools or support. Sure, you will be able to know who does better in that setting, but what conclusion can you bring of that?

Re:'Clean your desk': My Amazon interview experience by mcguire on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:34PM (#13132152)
It's gonna kinda suck to be the engineering team where nobody actually learned calculus.

Or the surgical team where everyone "collaborated" on basic anatomy.

Re:'Clean your desk': My Amazon interview experience by conanbatt on Monday December 12, 2016 @07:18PM (#13163381)
How would you know nobody learned calculus?

You are comparing people that dont know to people that know with that allegory. In a collaborative setting you would be able to see what people build, teach each other, and learn.

A team with 5 people that know 20% calculus can produce much better results than a team where 1 person knows 100%. And sometimes they wouldnt be able to produce a result at all.

Re:'Clean your desk': My Amazon interview experience by cellularmitosis on Friday December 09, 2016 @12:54AM (#13136968)
> but what conclusion can you bring of that

Welllll you could conclude that they are in a prime position to create a YouTube channel with 178 million views /s

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA/abo...

Re:'Clean your desk': My Amazon interview experience by enraged_camel on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:51PM (#13132318)
>>What would be the point of assessing an isolated individual in a world of collaboration?

Collaboration can only occur when each party has something meaningful to contribute.

Re:'Clean your desk': My Amazon interview experience by SilasX on Thursday December 08, 2016 @01:14PM (#13132569)
Yes, you're absolutely right, that someone's effectiveness -- in academia or otherwise -- depends on those around them.

But you still have to distinguish those who are not effective at all, contributing nothing, but who are still putting their name on the project.

To use the sibling example, there's a difference between a surgeon who draws on other specialists in the operation, vs someone that knows nothing about surgery.

Re:'Clean your desk': My Amazon interview experience by conanbatt on Monday December 12, 2016 @07:20PM (#13163390)
> But you still have to distinguish those who are not effective at all, contributing nothing, but who are still putting their name on the project.

You dont need an individual assessment to do that. The real work world is exemplary on that. People without degrees very often outrank and outperform people with degrees, either through curiosity or through other skills that make him a more important key member.

In real life if someone is regarded as unproductive by his co-workers is not re-tested individually for validation.