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Re:Worried About the Privacy of Your Messages? Download Signal by otalp on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:11PM (#13131913)
Telegram is a farce. They don't have end-to-end encryption by default, and their encryption protocol(MTProto) is home-made and basically a secret. They haven't opened it up to testing or open sourced it, so it's pretty useless at ensuring 'privacy'. Plus recently 15 million phone numbers linked to Telegram accounts were hacked because of an SMS verification loophole.

WhatsApp at least has end to end encryption- though that alone isn't enough, but it is not open source and is owned by Facebook. By default, it shares your number and your contacts' numbers with Facebook.

Neither Telegram nor WhatsApp are viable alternatives to anyone interested in privacy.

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Re:Worried About the Privacy of Your Messages? Download Signal by kowdermeister on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:23PM (#13132045)
> though that alone isn't enough

Why? I'm not trying to nitpick, I just don't know much on the subject. Not being open source doesn't really concern me nor the fact that my number is known by Facebook. My telecom company knows it, my mother knows it and all my friends know it + also all the companies know it who are used by my friends.

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Re:Worried About the Privacy of Your Messages? Download Signal by garaetjjte on Friday December 09, 2016 @10:09AM (#13139112)
>They haven't opened it up to testing or open sourced it

https://core.telegram.org/mtproto https://telegram.org/apps#source-code

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Re:Worried About the Privacy of Your Messages? Download Signal by at612 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @06:48PM (#13135445)
> Neither Telegram nor WhatsApp are viable alternatives to anyone interested in privacy.

Are you suggesting that the application under discussion here is a viable alternative? If so, how?

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