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Re:Intel x86 documentation has more pages than the 6502 has ... by andars on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @09:20PM (#13127932)
"Intel loves complexity"

Intel loves performance, because people want performance. Complexity is the cost of increased performance. As an example, I would guess that of the ~2000 pages of the instruction set reference, at a minimum 1000 pages document the various SIMD instructions. You don't need those, or the floating point operations, or SHA instructions, but I don't see any harm done by making them available.

Re:Intel x86 documentation has more pages than the 6502 has ... by flamedoge on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @11:47PM (#13128466)
don't you technically just need mov which is said to be turing complete?
Re:Intel x86 documentation has more pages than the 6502 has ... by fnj on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:30AM (#13129316)
It's not clear to me how [simple unconditional] mov could possibly do the job alone. I believe it could only work if it incorporates "magic" memory locations - e.g., storing at location x executes math combining location x and location y in some way and alters location z. This simply begs the question by moving logic behind the curtain.

I think the single instruction which can do the entire job without any magic assist is subneg x, y, z:

Subtract location x from location y; store the result in location y; and branch to location z if result is less than 0; else proceed to next.

Or various trivial variations of the same idea.

Any complication beyond this is no more than syntactical sugar and performance optimization.

Re:Intel x86 documentation has more pages than the 6502 has ... by pjc50 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:58AM (#13129585)
Re:Intel x86 documentation has more pages than the 6502 has ... by fnj on Thursday December 08, 2016 @06:27AM (#13129680)
Once I checked out the reference at the end of README.md, I like it. I could try to object that the "magic" has been moved into the addressing modes of the mov, but that would be a bit arbitrary.

If you focus only on direct memory addressing (no indirect or indexed), mine does still work, but mov doesn't. I think.

Re:Intel x86 documentation has more pages than the 6502 has ... by kazinator on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @09:32PM (#13127977)
1000 pages comes close to ANSI Common Lisp [1994], which is still criticized by some bitter old Lisp trolls for its size.

It's just some CPU instructions!

Maybe they aren't doing a good job of describing them succinctly?

Re:Intel x86 documentation has more pages than the 6502 has ... by andars on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @09:52PM (#13128055)
They probably aren't describing them very succinctly, because there isn't really a benefit to dropping information in the complete instruction set reference. If you don't want all of the information, look at the instruction set summary instead (~40 pages in volume 1).

These things aren't written to be brief, they are written to be complete.