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Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by Jemaclus on Monday December 05, 2016 @05:04PM (#13110143)
Agree. I would argue that the "don't discuss politics or religion" with family and friends is partly what got us into this mess in the first place. The United States has become a nation where you can't have reasonable political discourse, because we've been taught not to talk about it. We put our heads in the sand and repeat our same beliefs over and over without any external challenge or validation. When we try to have a discussion, we're so ill-prepared and we're so entrenched in our positions that we're unable to talk rationally or civilly about the topics.

I would argue that the opposite is necessary, as a general rule of discourse: we should calmly and confidently talk about politics with anyone and everyone. We should be able to have discussions about things like taxes, the military, and technology, without resorting to screaming and shouting names.

One could make the argument that Hacker News is not a political forum, but I think explicitly discouraging political discourse is not healthy in the long run.

Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by imron on Monday December 05, 2016 @07:09PM (#13111120)
> I would argue that the "don't discuss politics or religion" with family and friends is partly what got us into this mess in the first place

I don't think this is the problem.

The problem is the echo chambers people surround themselves with (and tech companies explicitly try to cultivate) and a slowly dying news media desperate for views, and whipping up outrage in order to get them.

Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by Jemaclus on Monday December 05, 2016 @08:40PM (#13111584)
And how do you dissolve -- or mitigate the effects of -- an echo chamber? By discussing contradicting views with those around you. The media has no control over that.
Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by grzm on Monday December 05, 2016 @08:47PM (#13111613)
If this is a topic you're interested in, I think you'll find Jonathan Haidt's book "The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion" particularly useful. I've read it through twice and it's helped me better understand the nature of the issue.
Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by nkurz on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @04:38AM (#13113395)
I'm halfway through it now as a result of your recommendation of it a week ago. Thanks, I'm finding it great!
Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by grzm on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @04:41AM (#13113414)
Very glad to hear it :)
Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by Jemaclus on Monday December 05, 2016 @11:54PM (#13112353)
Thanks for the recommendation!
Re:Tell HN: Political Detox Week – No politics on HN for one... by klagermkii on Monday December 05, 2016 @05:28PM (#13110386)
I absolutely agree with this. What may have seemed like a good idea to avoid short-term arguments, has instead allowed differences to fester to a point where people barely even agree on the terminology used.