Are you being literal? I wasn't saying that "repeated" meant lexical equality:
string.compare("more positive", "optimistic") == TRUE
semantic_intent("more positive", "optimistic") == TRUE
I'll add another thing to my list of suggestions: be really deliberate about educating people on the principle of charity. Instead of assuming that the other person is dumb/shortsighted/etc., assume that you're not giving their thinking enough credit.
> that's orthogonal to the inevitable formation of other communities
So what? Drive the downers out of JS-land, or whatever community you care about. You had been saying that even that shouldn't be bothered with. But if it can be accomplished, who cares if they all go off to learn Brainfuck, if that's the only community that will accept their behavior?
This is not possible.
When you previously mentioned "nice communities", I thought that meant specific javascript forums. Now I see you meant to drive the undesirables out of entire Javascript language completely and force them into another language.
>You had been saying that even that shouldn't be bothered with.
I've never said this. I've never suggested that people shouldn't strive to have well-behaved communities that encourages constructive feedback. In the forums I moderated, negative rant posts were not allowed and deleted.
However, I see the confusion in interpreting my posts now. You and Mouq are focused on the "making a better world" angle. My posts were describing something else: the build up of anger about <topic> will always exist to frustrate people like JK regardless of the efforts to make a friendlier community. (E.g. see multi-decades history of discourse about C++/Java/Lisp/etc/etc)
Not at all. I misinterpreted what you meant in your concern over them forming other communities.
JavaScript isn't some open source little language with a little community; it's what everyone has to use to target a web browser, whether they like it or not.
Nobody has to like JavaScript or be in some unofficial JavaScript community in order to develop in JavaScript.
> Yes, did you notice that I already made that suggestion in my post that you replied to and you just repeated it?
Hmm, let's see...
> Ok... so exactly how do we address it? Do we repeat, "From now on, let's all be nicer with more positive energy and feedback!" Ok, now that we've done that, is the problem solved? Why not?
yeah, no, that's not the same thing at all.