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Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by PietdeVries on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:39AM (#13080050)
This seems true for most modern, western economies: they are migrating from a producing economy to a service & knowledge economy. Logistics is big (moving stuff) and services are big (consultancy, lawfirms, etc), but the actual factories are gone. And that makes sense: with higher education levels you can make more complex things than the "regular" factories do. Stuff that requires trained staff - brains.

Oh - and btw: the US likely not only refines most oil, it also consumes it: the US have grown to a country based on consumption, spending and borrowing, but not on producing anything. So if goods only come in and money only goes out, there comes a time where the money is gone. And that is when the trouble starts...

Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by strictnein on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:44AM (#13080107)
> "but not on producing anything"

That's just not accurate. The US produces and exports a wide variety of petroleum based products and lots of oil as well. We import a lot of heavier oil, because we have the capacity to refine it (unlike most nations) and export a lot of the easier to refine stuff.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/06/investing/us-oil-exports-inc...

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=25532

And, the US industrial output is at its highest point ever.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/INDPRO

Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by frozenport on Thursday December 01, 2016 @11:22AM (#13080531)
I think you need to normalize by population to get a sense for how much, we as a people, are producing.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(industrial+production...

Here the story is that our product has peaked around 2000, and has been doing down ever since.

Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by dsp1234 on Thursday December 01, 2016 @11:51AM (#13080842)
Except that story would not be true, as it clearly goes up, and has a higher peak after 2000.
Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by frozenport on Thursday December 01, 2016 @01:43PM (#13082146)
Yeah around 2007, but this was relatively short lived.

At the end of the day the perception that economic output is dropping (slope) is valid if you consider it on a per capita basis. Now I'd you consider that the jobs and profits aren'disturbed equally, you can see why Trump won.

Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by icebraining on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:52AM (#13080193)
But it's not true, the actual factories are still producing, and more than never: http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jonbruner/files/2011/08/value...
Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by snrplfth on Thursday December 01, 2016 @02:13PM (#13082458)
> "the US have grown to a country based on consumption, spending and borrowing, but not on producing anything."

Eh, not really. Services and other tertiary industries are just as much "production" as a factory or a mine is. The US government, and US citizens, are not much more indebted than average. You don't "run out of money" by buying foreign goods.