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Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by mediumdeviation on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:26AM (#13079485)
Economics is not called the dismal science for nothing
Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by yummyfajitas on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:15AM (#13079842)
That's not why economics is called the dismal science.

Economics is called the "dismal science" because of it's "find[ing] the secret of this Universe in 'supply and demand,' and reducing the duty of human governors to that of letting men alone".

Carlyle took a different view, feeling that the "idle Black man in the West Indies" should be "compelled to work as he was fit, and to do the Maker's will who had constructed him".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dismal_science

Mencius Moldbug also has an interesting take on Carlyle, suggesting that his views on slavery and hierarchy were significantly more nuanced than what my pithy summary above describes. I have not managed to read enough Carlyle to form my own opinion (maybe on my next 24 hour flight).

https://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-ca... https://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/07/carlyl...

Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by maxerickson on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:27AM (#13079947)
Iconoclastic mood affiliation?
Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by maxerickson on Thursday December 01, 2016 @09:53AM (#13079684)
Isn't that largely because people don't understand it?
Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by the_duke on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:07AM (#13079783)
The term is more a criticism of the reductionist view of Economics, ignoring human value and ethical considerations.

But the problem with economics is that it is often viewed or presented/used (by governments) as a hard science, while it is much closer to some humanities: a game of deducing, abstracting, and guessing.

Economies are hugely complex and intertwined systems, which are hard to understand and harder to predict, because they depend on so many variables.

Economic models often only work when everything is going well or down an established path, and not when you would actually need them.

Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by saosebastiao on Thursday December 01, 2016 @10:27AM (#13079946)
Math is closer to the humanities than economics is. Math is not empirical, with its expanding knowledge driven more by philosophical thinking than empirical deduction.

Economics is not a hard science, and shouldn't be treated as such, but to claim it is more like the humanities is disingenuous. It is a social science. That is to say that it is still ultimately empirical, just that the empirical implications of working with humans makes the job a lot harder and ocassionally less repeatable (are we measuring innate human nature, or a fluid and ever changing culture?).

Re:A strengthening dollar is bad for the world economy by AnimalMuppet on Thursday December 01, 2016 @01:11PM (#13081788)
We're measuring human behavior. The problem is that, as the circumstances change, humans change their behavior. That means that economic models only work as long as the economy keeps doing what it has been, so that the humans keep doing what they have been, which leads to an economy that continues to do what it has been...