Downvotes are not citations, but citations are, and when you ask for and receive citations and then pretend they don't exist you get downvoted.

(Admittedly I don't know the order of your downvotes, your edit, and the replies to your comment, but this is a pattern that happens all discussions about that subreddit. "There's no evidence for X" posters maintain their stance by simply ignoring all the evidence that gets readily supplied. It's absolutely infuriating to deal with.)