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Re:How Stable Are Democracies? ‘Warning Signs Are Flashing Red’ by Torgo on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @02:55PM (#13065760)
These are great questions, but in the end they are ones that the left didn't bother to ask when they dropped a principled support of the first amendment for "hate speech" as intimidation, in particular on college campuses as enforced by the US Justice Department. Personally I am against criminalizing flag burning, but for the purpose of highlighting hypocrisy I would like to be the first conservative to cite Karl Popper to argue for it: tolerant societies have a right to be intolerant of intolerance. Burning the flag is hate speech and intimidation based on rejection of our shared American values, and shall be banned.

Anyone on the left who disagrees with this argument? Re-evaluate your own principles then, in a way that doesn't assume "my values are right and yours are wrong" in the context of a democratic republic.

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Re:How Stable Are Democracies? ‘Warning Signs Are Flashing Red’ by int_19h on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @10:21PM (#13068237)
I'm on the left, and I disagree with your argument - but then again, I disagree with hate speech laws in general.

Then again, why is burning the flag necessarily "hate speech". I would dare say that it's perfectly legitimate way to protest any abuses that are carried out presumably in the name of that flag - like, say, Gitmo or Patriot Act.

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Re:How Stable Are Democracies? ‘Warning Signs Are Flashing Red’ by Torgo on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @02:36PM (#13073898)
Why is anything "hate" speech?
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Re:How Stable Are Democracies? ‘Warning Signs Are Flashing Red’ by int_19h on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @05:27PM (#13075294)
Because sometimes speech really is intended to arouse unmotivated hate in the audience. I don't have a problem calling such speech "hate speech" - it's a perfectly accurate label. It's also subjective, insofar any emotion is subjective, which is why it doesn't have place in law.
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