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Re:TDD: tastes better without the T? by Tichy on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @11:14AM (#1301722)
What frequently floors me is the complexity of the test frameworks and utilities. Look at an average Rails shop, and their list of test helpers goes on forever. Stuff like mockups, creating test data and so on.

I just hate learning frameworks.

My dogma is fun driven development. If something is not fun, you are probably doing it wrong. Creating mock objects and ever more abstract test frameworks is not fun to me (ymmv).

Re:TDD: tastes better without the T? by cageface on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @12:11PM (#1301883)
Not only that but they tend to be fragile and break when something in Rails or the other sub-frameworks they depend on changes. Somewhat ironic actually...