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Re:TDD: tastes better without the T? by ErrantX on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @10:19AM (#1301592)
Anyone who works in corporate style commercial software (or at least good corporate style commercial software) will tell you they figured this out years ago.

Probably before even TDD made the rounds.

Re:TDD: tastes better without the T? by inerte on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @10:56AM (#1301675)
I don't understand, why only corporate style commercial software (which I guess I don't know what it is too :p

I thought the ones expected to already have this figured out are the awesome programmers, with more experience, the 10x more productive ones (which I do NOT include myself into). But why create this sub-group of "corporate style commercial"?

Re:TDD: tastes better without the T? by ErrantX on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @11:09AM (#1301708)
Well all I meant was the kind of dull, grey, software packages that corporations pay thousands for.

As opposed to indie programmers or "cutting edge" commercial stuff - (i.e. Fogcreek, 37signals etc.) for whom things like TDD and agile tend to be big buzzwords.

(oops I didnt fully answer your question: and the reason I singled it out is because all the TDD/agile stuff just passes that industry by - they've been using SCM for years, write unit tests and, well, just "get the job done" (tm))

Re:TDD: tastes better without the T? by kaffeinecoma on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @12:39PM (#1301952)
Fogcreek is actually fairly anti-TDD, unless that's just Joel speaking.