Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by kristopolous on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:58PM
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Biggest problem is that climate change aggressively challenges many foundations of capitalism and consumerism.
That's a religion to some people. And this is akin to changing it.
Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by jules on Thursday November 17, 2016 @04:56PM
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Capitalism has been and will be an essential ingredient to solve the problem and switch to other sources of energy. The issue is that the costs to the global environment are not borne by the polluters. Put a price tag on pollution and the market will do the best it can.
Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by worldsayshi on Thursday November 17, 2016 @04:14PM
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Well in the end capitalism determines everyone's personal incomes. As long as the rich keep getting relatively richer and the population bigger the economy has to grow in order to leave at least near as much income for people in general as before.
Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by yodsanklai on Thursday November 17, 2016 @05:06PM
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Yes, people are convinced. But ask them to give up a little of their comfort and they start rioting. I see it in my (european) city, even smallish measures to restrict car usage lead to major contestations.
Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by strictnein on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:12PM
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China is convinced? Then China should tell China to stop building coal power plants.
They burn slightly more coal than the rest of the world combined.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/business/energy-environmen...
Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by papercrane on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:18PM
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> China is convinced? Then China should tell China to stop building coal power plants.
You realise you're source says they're doing exactly that?
"In guidelines released on Monday, China halted plans for new coal-fired power stations in many parts of the country, and construction of some approved plants will be postponed until at least 2018."
They've also gone all in on solar, having more installed capacity than any other nation. They're far from perfect, but they've started to acknowledge the problem at least.
Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by problems on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:22PM
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Not only that, but they've taken all these steps while they're bringing hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty doing sustenance farming and into cities. Cities where they want things like electricity and cars. Look at the history of the world, development like that is usually fueled by burning as many hydrocarbons as possible. It's very good to see a country able now to at least start to break away from that. The rapidly dropping price of solar, thanks in large part to China plays a big role in that.
Re:Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016
by yellow_postit on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:20PM
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Despite setbacks China is also actively building up more nuclear capacity, something I wish was taken more seriously in the US http://energypost.eu/china-2016-year-nuclear-power/
The problem here is to convince world leaders to actually do something.
[1] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-16/china-tell...
[2] http://climatepublicopinion.stanford.edu/sample-page/opinion...
[3] https://environment.yale.edu/poe/v2014/
[4] http://www.gallup.com/poll/190010/concern-global-warming-eig...