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Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by rdtsc on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @10:54PM (#12974101)
I might have to switch at some point. It is stories like these that are freaking me out. Were there any instances of them being DoS-ed or you not getting emails from others?

I would also be afraid one day if Google sees people fleeing to them, they'd come in and buy them. I'd almost whish there was a public trust or non-profit who would run an email server. Post office is a government service (for better or for worse), email is a bit like what regular mail was 100 years ago.

Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by x0x0 on Thursday November 17, 2016 @02:31AM (#12975204)
ime: their spam detection is definitely inferior to gmail; I've had 2-5 false negatives per month (spam not detected) and a handful of false positives over 3+ years. Plus a payment notice from my student loan that fastmail absolutely positively refuses to believe is not spam not matter how many times I so mark it.

I've had zero deliverability issues.

edit: to be clear, the spam detection works well, and if you're going to make an error, it's far less annoying to bias (as they do) towards a few spam showing up in your inbox rather than actual messages getting lost in spam. Also, they show the spam score, and you can hand adjust your spam threshold if you want.

Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by brongondwana on Thursday November 17, 2016 @06:41AM (#12976516)
"a payment notice from my student loan that fastmail absolutely positively refuses to believe is not spam"

That's because it's not spam. I'm pretty sure there's a blog post coming soon about the difference between spam and "email I don't want to receive". If you just don't want to hear from a particular email address, the way to stop it is to put an explicit discard rule for that address in your Rules screen.

Likely changes for next year include making a much easier UI option for "don't show me email from this address again", because that's a fairly common request for situations like this where you have a vexatious sender. I suspect it will be implemented as an addressbook group - the anti-whitelist!

Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by jjnoakes on Thursday November 17, 2016 @08:21AM (#12977174)
I think you misread the double negative?
Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by x0x0 on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:22AM (#12978778)
You're right / I wasn't clear.

The student loan confirmation is sent to spam every month. I mark it as not spam.

In their defense, the message is full of all caps words that look like a sentence formatted from a sql query with little attention paid to formatting plus it has all sorts of spam words (bank, payment confirmation, loan, etc).

Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by x0x0 on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:24AM (#12978790)
The address killfile sounds awesome.
Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by snovv_crash on Thursday November 17, 2016 @04:19AM (#12975805)
I get tons of false positives in Gmail. Mostly from mailing lists where I guess someone else reported it as spam because they were too lazy to unsubscribe, but also some others. But it means that I regularly have to dig through all of the Russian camgirl requests to make sure nothing important is there.
Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by kybernetyk on Thursday November 17, 2016 @04:51AM (#12975994)
That's why I'm using my own domain now for emails. Even if my email provider goes away I still keep the address.
Re:Don’t Mess with The Google by rdtsc on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:15AM (#12978707)
Good point. I have an un-used domain. Maybe this is the time to finally use it.