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Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by LyndsySimon on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @10:13AM (#12967587)
> No one is suggesting that all or most Trump supporters are racist.

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

- Hillary Clinton, Sep 2016

Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by jinfiesto on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @10:40AM (#12967878)
Many Democrats, myself included thought that particular statement was unnecessarily incendiary. Though, in the bit of text that you quoted, I was mostly referring to the context of this thread. I don't think that there's any doubt that much of the liberal media has broadly painted all Trump supporters as being racists, bigots and xenophobes.
Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by makomk on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @04:46PM (#12971872)
I saw a lot of people on my Twitter feed at the time arguing that actually, half was an understatement and that Clinton should never have backed down on this.
Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by tzs on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:09PM (#12970301)
Half is an exaggeration, but they do seem a lot more common among Trump supporters than among Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Bush, and Kasich supporters.

Spend a while in /r/the_donald.

Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by jazzyk on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:41AM (#12978947)
People who frequent that subreddit do not even amount to 0.00001% of the Trump electorate.
Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by tzs on Thursday November 17, 2016 @01:53PM (#12980239)
So? The same can be said for people who frequent Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Bush, and Kasich forums, but none of those get anywhere near the percentage of racist and similar posts and comments as does /r/the_donald.
Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by jazzyk on Thursday November 17, 2016 @02:32PM (#12980639)
So you are projecting opinions of 0.0001% of Trump supporters (or trolls, who knows) to 60M+ people who voted for him? I see a bright career at WaPo or NYT for you :-)
Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by tzs on Thursday November 17, 2016 @06:16PM (#12982712)
> So you are projecting opinions of 0.0001% of Trump supporters (or trolls, who knows) to 60M+ people who voted for him?

1. No, I'm looking at differences in properties of samples drawn from different populations to estimate differences in those populations. Trump-related online forums have a higher fraction of racists than Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio, Bush, and Kasich forums do.

If Trump supporters in general had the same level of racism as supporters of those other candidates, then we would expect Trump forums to show about the same level of racism as the forums of those other candidates.

2. You seem to think the size of a sample as a percentage of the population is important. It is not. For large populations it is the absolute number of people in the sample that is important, not the percentage of the population.

I am making the assumption that supporters of various candidates are all about equally likely to decide to post on their candidate's forums. It is possible that there is something about Trump supporters that makes racist Trump supporters more prone to make racist forum posts.

That is what you should be focusing on to criticize my inferences about Trump supporters, rather than basing it on your inadequate understanding of elementary probability and how it applies to determining the sample size needed to make reasonably inferences about a population from a sample.

> I see a bright career at WaPo or NYT for you :-)

Have an upvote. I like it when people who are wrong are at least feisty about it.

Re:Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @10:16AM (#12967620)
Not all of them. They’re people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.