Well I have rebuked the core two tenets of your argument several times in this thread, i.e. the cherry picking in your 'first world countries', and the 'gun deaths are different from other deaths' part, and all you can come back with is 'there is no point arguing' (uh?), 'you can go look it up' (I did, and showed you where, and you just ignore it) and 'I can't help you'. It seems to me you're the one who's too caught up in their identity politics to entertain the facts.