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Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by breakingcups on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @01:56PM (#12961045)
You can include a header in your email message where, if a user marks a message as spam, Gmail / Hotmail / whatever will let you know.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by tgb on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @02:05PM (#12961132)
Why do they do that? Seems great for this use-case but terrible information to give bad actors.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by secretRubyDev on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @02:37PM (#12961419)
When I've usually clicked the report spam and unsubscribe button after reporting spam in gmail it usually immediately opens a tab with the unsubscribe URL.

I've since stopped doing it since the last thing I want to do is open up some random page belonging to the person who spammed me.

Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by jazoom on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @10:11PM (#12964257)
That's strange. I thought the point of that button was to overcome the exact problem you just described.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by secretRubyDev on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @09:36AM (#12967136)
Tried it again with a different message and they said they'd try to unsubscribe me this time instead of opening a link.

Did try again yesterday with a different spam message and had it open a tab though; Zapier was spamming me with some newsletter so I clicked "Report Spam and Unsubcribe" yesterday and it opened up this in a new tab: https://zapier.com/app/settings/email?payload=REMOVED

Not really sure how it determines that -- I'll probably avoid clicking it just out of precaution and just report spam going forward though.

Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by rolandog on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @10:16AM (#12967617)
Using a lot of the privacy and security measures suggested in https://www.privacytools.io/ I sometimes do a gmail search using 'is:unread in:all unsubscribe' and click on most of the links I can find.

In some cases, Gmail automatically detects the unsubscribe link. If you click Gmail's unsubscribe link, it may give you a pop-up or it may automatically write an email to [email protected]. The pop-up usually leads to a form that you have to fill to 'update your newsletter preferences'.

Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by taco_emoji on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @04:53PM (#12962606)
What information does this reveal besides your email address, which they clearly already have?
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @08:20PM (#12963824)
It's a feedback signal showing success at passing automated spam filters.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by techdmn on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @05:24PM (#12962890)
It confirms that the address is valid, and most likely attended by a real person.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by angry-hacker on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @06:31PM (#12963282)
But there are gazillion email leaks. Go scrape them all with hashed passwords. Active emails have no value.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by smsm42 on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @11:08PM (#12964460)
Leaks may have emails that are defunct, belong to dormant accounts nobody reads, throwaway accounts like mailinator.com, honeypots, etc. This confirms the account belongs to a real human actively reading the email.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by brazzledazzle on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @10:55PM (#12964424)
You're right that they don't have value but there's still plenty of idiots out there buying and selling useless lists and while they're worthless they have a cost to us as recipients since we have to mark them as spam and delete them.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by ori_b on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @09:50PM (#12964154)
It reveals that their email was detected as spam by an intelligent piece of meat instead of a shard of silicon.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by yAnonymous on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @10:10AM (#12967556)
Email lists with verified activity have a higher success rate and sell for more.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by gus_massa on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @03:25PM (#12961872)
Many times when you hit the spam button, gmail ask if you want to "only mark as spam" or "mark as spam & unsubscribe".
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by TheHegemon on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @02:10PM (#12961176)
Would make sense to prevent themselves to be marked as spam in the future.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by openasocket on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @02:24PM (#12961293)
idk, I'm trying to find a way a bad actor could take advantage of that information. Kind of helpful for spammers to get a sense of what does and does not get marked, but they can just see how many people clicked the link.
Re:How We Make Money at Stack Overflow by jobu on Tuesday November 15, 2016 @02:40PM (#12961442)
In the past (10+ years ago), clicking the Unsubscribe link in a spam email was a sure way to get your email address sold to every spammer out there.

Most of those bad actors seem to have been weeded out, but some still might try it.