Re:Maine Ranked Choice Voting Initiative Approved
by hackuser on Monday November 14, 2016 @05:45PM
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Trump won with fewer votes than his opponent; governors always win with more votes than their opponents. Whether the governor's vote total is a majority or plurality is a separate question.
Also of interest: Democrats have won the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections, going back a quarter century.
Re:Maine Ranked Choice Voting Initiative Approved
by bbarn on Monday November 14, 2016 @11:18PM
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Isn't this exactly why the electoral college exists? To prevent incredibly dense populations with completely different priorities from deciding for the entire nation?
Note also, no states went to Trump where Clinton had the popular vote.
Re:Maine Ranked Choice Voting Initiative Approved
by SamBam on Monday November 14, 2016 @12:46PM
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> I bet they will reconsider that strategy now.
That will be hard, given that it won them the White House, and produced the victory for the now-defacto leader of the Republican Party.
Party rules to amend it would be a slap in the face of Trump, much like if the Democrats tried to change things so that "an Obama" couldn't win while Obama was in office.
It's time to get rid of the FPTP voting system. It only serves to elect people with minority support. Heck, if the Republican party didn't use FPTP in its primary, it's likely Trump wouldn't have been the nominee. But they used it precisely because they wanted to make the primary less democratic, and they thought their main guy, Jeb Bush, would be the one winning with 40% of the Republicans' votes, while all the other candidates would split the vote. I bet they will reconsider that strategy now.
Even Clinton, which won the popular vote, only had support from 48% of the voters - less than the majority. So even if she won, in my book, it would still not be democratic, because perhaps in a two-round voting system or in an RCV system, Clinton would preserve the 48%, and Trump would get 52% if the Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, and write-in voters would've all gone to Trump. We just don't know, and the only way to know that a candidate is indeed liked by at least 50%+1 of the voters, is to have a system that shows that. The FPTP voting system doesn't.