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Re:AdultFriendFinder was hacked by nicoburns on Sunday November 13, 2016 @11:47AM (#12944180)
This is because a lot of banks Internet banking systems evolved from their phone banking systems. The random digits thing was so that someone couldn'the guess your code when you said it out loud over the phone.
Re:AdultFriendFinder was hacked by syntheticnature on Sunday November 13, 2016 @12:50PM (#12944543)
Yes, when I wound up with Fidelity for a 401(k) I found their system was designed around being able to "enter your password on your phone" -- using the number keys, i.e. b3G -> 234. I can only hope that version is at least stored as a hash...
Re:AdultFriendFinder was hacked by djf1 on Sunday November 13, 2016 @03:48PM (#12945570)
The worst feeling is getting halfway through keying out your password on the number keys when the Fidelity robot tells you that's not the right password. I just say operator now until they transfer me to a human.
Re:AdultFriendFinder was hacked by syntheticnature on Sunday November 13, 2016 @05:13PM (#12945982)
I apparently am "good" enough to never have had that happen, though I don't call very often. That's horrific, since it implies that it is stored as plaintext, "optimistically" as "plain-number-text."
Re:AdultFriendFinder was hacked by jschwartzi on Sunday November 13, 2016 @08:38PM (#12946905)
It's also horrific because you can use that to brute-force guess someone's password, because the robot will tell you when you have the wrong digit, so you can work your way through all 10 phone keys for each digit, noting each time whether the robot kicks you out, until you guess the entire thing.
Re:AdultFriendFinder was hacked by djf1 on Monday November 14, 2016 @06:08AM (#12948981)
To be clear, the input just times out, likely because they don't expect a long random password input. I don't think it's evidence that they can verify a substring of your password.