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Re:The Real Reason there are no Silicon Valleys in Europe by mynameishere on Tuesday March 04, 2008 @06:28PM (#129278)
I'm sorry, but all 'evidence' of a benefit to capitalism is bull

My standard response to this:

South Korea vs. North Korea

Taiwan or Hong Kong vs. Red China

Modern China vs. Red China

West Germany vs. East Germany

USA vs USSR

Socialism has failed over and over, and I'm not going to argue the point.

Please, quote properly.

Uh huh. And then you quote yourself by adding in text that wasn't there before. Good job.

Re:The Real Reason there are no Silicon Valleys in Europe by Electro on Tuesday March 04, 2008 @08:52PM (#129378)
Good job to you too; annotating isn't adding, it's annotating. It serves a purpose, obviously you never learnt that in school. Ha, maybe you should have gone into a school system where the government provides free quality education? You know, socialist.

Also where did faschist Stalinist-Communism come into this, we're talking about !!EUROPE!! here. Why not bring in Hitler to make your arguing skills completely inept.

Besides the fact you blatently know nothing about socialism, namely that the Anarcho-Communism movement in the Spanish Revolution led to 50-100% increases in worker efficiencies, before they got killed off and supressed. Similar happened during the Hungarian Revolution, both extremely successful but never powerful enough to survive military force. Also, it's nice that you miss out Cuba from your list, and make 'Modern China' sound like it's still not a Communist dictatorship, and BTW not Stalinist.

Now, back onto the subject of Europe. Nevermind that Europe, by your opinion, is going 'socialist' and apparently succeeding by beating the US economy. The fact that universal health care by US education seems to be 'socialist' and is in every WESTERN country except the US.

Every country in the west is a mixed economy, mixing nationalism and capitalism. Europe has done this to the best degree and is succeeding by it, the US has done it the least (yes you're part RED) and is suffering because of it.

I find your ignorance to social policy humourus. Capitalism is bull because the US doesn't practice it even though it waves the flag for it like crazy. I mean the US is basically like any European country, just piss poor at coughing up the cash.

I mean how far is banning drugs from banning certain hair cuts like in North Korea? It's on the same scale and 'banning' things isn't actually capitalist. I mean, the Netherlands by definition is more capitalist than the US because they're legalising drugs and prostitution.

Capitalism = ultimate left. Communism = ultimate right. Mixed = 50/50. No country is capitalist anymore because it doesn't work, it's a fantasy but communism does exist in its entirity and Cuba is an example of that, China too. The only part of China that you described as 'modern' China is Hong Kong, which is because it has British Laws that are mixed economy, and the only industries that have remained non-nationalised in China exist in Hong Kong because the government doesn't have its power to nationalise at will there.

Re:The Real Reason there are no Silicon Valleys in Europe by david927 on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @03:29AM (#129567)
Great writing skills, Electro, and of course you've got it exactly right.

As an American who has lived in Europe for well over a decade, it shocks me now to see how sacred the word Capitalism is to Americans. To say anything negative about it, or anything positive about Socialism, is blasphemy and apostasy. I know there's a rich history behind why this is, but it still surprises me -- no shocks me -- that otherwise intelligent individuals will lose their minds over such issues, much like religious fanatics. This article above is a good example, and reads like a fundamentalist tract. Unfortunately, I feel America has become a failed experiment of what happens when Capitalism is not tempered enough.

Re:The Real Reason there are no Silicon Valleys in Europe by rms on Tuesday March 04, 2008 @09:17PM (#129397)
I think your left and right and up and down are a little mixed up... look into a scale like this: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Re:The Real Reason there are no Silicon Valleys in Europe by mynameishere on Tuesday March 04, 2008 @09:14PM (#129394)
I mean how far is banning drugs from banning certain hair cuts like in North Korea?

LOL

* I mean, the Netherlands by definition is more capitalist than the US because they're legalising drugs and prostitution.*

LOL

Capitalism = ultimate left.

LOL

Communism = ultimate right.

LOL

but communism does exist in its entirity and Cuba is an example of that, China too

LOL

Troll on, brother.

Re:The Real Reason there are no Silicon Valleys in Europe by mynameishere on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @06:08PM (#130088)
Out of curiosity: Have the people downmodding me here actually read the howlers that I quoted?