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Re:Scouts and guides provide ‘mental health boost for life’ by chiph on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:39AM (#12921912)
> I've never served in the military, but from the people I know that have, they pretty much learn to take the same attitude.

The phrase used in the US military for this is "Embrace the suck". Which means "The situation is bad, but deal with it."

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Re:Scouts and guides provide ‘mental health boost for life’ by stvswn on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:33PM (#12922912)
As an Eagle Scout and former Army officer, one of my enduring life lessons has been "false motivation is better than no motivation."

When you're cold, wet, and tired it helps to pretend you love it. It's infectious, too.

It is actually a good feeling when you realize you're not as fragile as you thought you were. "I would have thought that I'd be miserable in this situation, but I'm actually OK" is a good thought to have.

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Re:Scouts and guides provide ‘mental health boost for life’ by istorical on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:44PM (#12923005)
The same mechanism is probably why studies show that forcing a smile even when you don't feel happy can lead you to slowly become happier.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/smile-it-could-ma...

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Re:Scouts and guides provide ‘mental health boost for life’ by capnrefsmmat on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:11PM (#12923251)
This result has been cast into doubt by a recent replication attempt, which failed to find any such forced-smile effect.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/pdf/StrackRRR_manuscrip...

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Re:Scouts and guides provide ‘mental health boost for life’ by hueving on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:17PM (#12923308)
Similar to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
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Re:Scouts and guides provide ‘mental health boost for life’ by secfirstmd on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:27PM (#12922855)
In Ireland we mostly called it "Improvise, adapt, overcome."
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Re:Scouts and guides provide ‘mental health boost for life’ by kafkaesq on Thursday November 10, 2016 @07:39PM (#12926275)
Which means "The situation is bad, but deal with it."

The problem with this phrase is that the U.S. military takes it extremes, telling soldiers to suppress inborn capacities for empathy, particularly in regard to civilians and "military-age males" routinely maimed and butchered in the course of its day-to-day operations. Inevitably resulting not only in mental health issues for the soldiers when they return home, but ultimately, failure of the overall mission itself.

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