Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too influential

Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by 75j on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:39AM (#12921902)

One example from Leibovich:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4213

And one of Haberman's stories being sent to Podesta:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/51561

Here's a Clinton campaign strategy document that mentions Haberman and how she has "teed up many stories for us before and [we] have never been disappointed":

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3125945-Story-Memo.h...

Doing an advanced search on Wikileaks filtering by "[email protected]" in the sender field, you'll see that the first drafts of nearly 50 different articles were sent to John Podesta:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=&mfrom=nytdirect%40n...

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by mtbcoder on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:55AM (#12922014)

Thank you, but in the second link, this appears to be a newsletter email from the First Draft blog on the NY Times [1]. The DocumentCloud link is certainly not verifiable as it contains only the single page.

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/23/which...

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by 75j on Thursday November 10, 2016 @12:04PM (#12922092)

You're right about those first drafts, my mistake.

That Clinton campaign strategy documents comes from, apparently, the Guccifer 2.0 hacks. Glenn Greenwald and Lee Fang contacted Nick Merrill to confirm the document's authenticity, but received no response.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/09/exclusive-new-email-leak...

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by 75j on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:47AM (#12921950)

One more I found just now concerning Leibovich:

"Here is the quote that Leibovich is intending to use from your conversation with him unless we see a problem. I don’t."

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/33945

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by mtbcoder on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:58AM (#12922040)

Thank you, I believe Leibovich's response provides the relevant context though.

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by 75j on Thursday November 10, 2016 @12:08PM (#12922129)

NYT links are all paywalled for me, but I can't envision any possible excuse for what he did. I understand that "access" is a tricky problem and involves some moral grey area, but sending articles ahead of time for revision and "vetoing", and asking for permission to use a quote... those both strike me as a clear failure in journalistic ethics.

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by maxerickson on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:38PM (#12922960)

So should journalists simply never agree to have conversations off the record?

I think there are big problems with the way access and coverage are mixed up together and traded on, but I'm pretty comfortable with a journalist agreeing not to publish remarks made during a conversation and then later asking to publish some of them.

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by hga on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:33PM (#12922910)

as a clear failure in journalistic ethics

To quote Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds, "Just think of the media as Democrat operatives with bylines, and it all makes sense."

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Re:Some in Silicon Valley wonder if Facebook has grown too i... by maxerickson on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:39PM (#12922967)

Sean Hannity, Democrat operative.

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