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Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by hedgehog on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:41AM (#12918235)
It's news because they were an interesting idea that ran through $65M of venture money with some turmoil and then folded. If you you think you're seeing a generational change in the way retail works and you see a charismatic founder who has found what looks like a new winning formula it doesn't seem that crazy to back her and see what happens. If you're the founder and you think you have fair odds at going from all of a small business to a large slice of the next H&M by pushing growth really hard then maybe that sounds like a good idea. My guess is that was the decision and she decided to go for growth, it would be interesting to hear why it blew up though.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by staticelf on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:06AM (#12918340)
They sold clothes online? I don't get why their idea was any different from the thousands of other retailers that is selling clothes?

Yeh, but going for the large growth and taking huge amount of vc money is very risky since if the growth you dream of never come that vc money is a ticking bomb.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by qq66 on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:28AM (#12918430)
Most retailers don't have any different of an "idea" than "pay us money for stuff." They're differentiated on brand, positioning, marketing, customer service, etc. LL Bean's "idea" is the same as J. Crew's but they're both very different but very successful companies.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by true_religion on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:37AM (#12918469)
Yeah, I mean this isn't like a startup where people are trying to strike it rich by exploring a whole new greenfield.

Retail clothing sales is well trodden ground. No one is inovating, everyone who survives just executes better than the other guy.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by Veen on Thursday November 10, 2016 @08:04AM (#12919998)
> this isn't like a startup where people are trying to strike it rich by exploring a whole new greenfield

Most of the startups I hear about aren't doing that either. The vast majority are slight variations on a theme where most of the supposed novelty is in the marketing — just like Nasty Gal.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by danpalmer on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:56AM (#12919364)
I like to think we're innovating at Thread (thread.com). We're innovating on the customer side with recommendations and more educational content than a standard ecommerce experience, but also on the business model/stock/supply side.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by true_religion on Thursday November 10, 2016 @10:30AM (#12921171)
I went through the process, even though I live in the US. It's certainly interesting, but nothing that I don't get from simply walking into a Hugo Boss or Hermes' store.

They'll happily take my measurements, and let me call in for recommendations.

I do suppose the idea of giving personalized recommendations to lower spending groups might work though I bet that department stores do the same thing. I know that women's fashion websites tailor their experience to users already.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by danpalmer on Thursday November 10, 2016 @10:49AM (#12921376)
I guess the differences between us an a Hugo Boss/Hermes store are:

- Only high end stores do personal styling/personal shopping, whereas we have a range that suits all budgets.

- Styling in-store has a much more limited range, we have ~1500 brands.

- Going into a store, or chatting on the phone, is much less accessible than browsing a website (although obviously a trade-off on being able to try on the clothes right there, but we do free returns).

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by Shanea93 on Thursday November 10, 2016 @06:38AM (#12919552)
Just signed up, it's perfect, the service I never knew I needed but clearly always have.

Is there any time limit on purchases? I'm not paid for a week, I wouldn't want to go through that signup process and have it disappear for whatever reason.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by danpalmer on Thursday November 10, 2016 @10:47AM (#12921354)
Nope, you only sign up once, and then log in to your account any time you want to check your latest recommendations or just browse what we have, ordered by how suitable we think it is for you. We're also trialling direct contact with your stylist.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by FashionExist on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:26AM (#12918931)
Oh wow, I guess clothes that is being sold is just some widget. Too many people in the tech world simply do not get fashion.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by Shanea93 on Thursday November 10, 2016 @06:43AM (#12919580)
I don't think the OP was saying that - they were saying that it's not a technically difficult issue, and they would be fairly right.

In my experience, most large fashion sites can comfortably run on a Magento instance with a fairly simple architecture, normally a small handful of load balanced PHP instances, with a dual read slave / master database configuration.

Fashion itself, however, is a much different beast, being cool, hip, whatever, it takes a lot of skill - to really understand your target market and sell them something they don't even know they want yet.

Source: I'm a software engineer who has previously worked for www.missguided.co.uk, www.jdsports.co.uk, www.boohoo.com and currently works for www.countryattire.co.uk

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by jay_kyburz on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:52AM (#12918285)
perhaps somebody could summarise what was interesting about thier idea.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by eltoozero on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:29AM (#12918435)
I think he just did, but I can do it further.

Nothing new, investors threw money at a bad idea, business failed.

So, how about lunch?

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by lmm on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:27AM (#12918933)
Is it normal to get $65mm in VC money for an online clothes store? Should I be trying to found a company like this?
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by dawson on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:18AM (#12919177)
If you can grow a profitable company with no debt (prior to VC), with a [reported] revenue close to $100 million (in 2012), sure why not.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by corecoder on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:57AM (#12919086)
Also, does one get to keep some of those $65mm (without risking jail, that is)?
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by WhitneyLand on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:28AM (#12918182)
>>I guess it's news because of the sex of the founder

You're suggesting it's some kind of feminism promotion piece?

Any company with over $50MM in funding will get press. I might buy the idea that part of it relates to her being a high profile founder, but none of this relates to gender.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by staticelf on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:09AM (#12918354)
> You're suggesting it's some kind of feminism promotion piece?

No I'm suggesting it gets covered because of a female founder. A lot of companies in that size go broke all the time without being covered. Maybe it hasn't anything to do with her gender but I can't help to think it has since the news otherwise is incredibly boring.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by ryporter on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:01AM (#12919105)
I'm sorry you find this boring, but it is of a lot of interest to many other people. The company had a good origin story, a charismatic founder, rapid growth, and great branding. It's interesting that such a rapidly growing company and brand could come to a screeching halt like this.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by true_religion on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:35AM (#12918453)
That and the company had a fairly provocative name, and targetted young women (read: teens) thus it was tailor made for family values controversy.

Also, the female founder is an author who heavily markets her book on business techniques and has publishers who are dedicated to calling newspapers and getting her name in them.

All press is good press after all.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by guptaneil on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:39AM (#12918474)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Atechcrunch.com+bankrupt

Startup bankruptcies are a very common topic and Nasty Gal isn't any different. To suggest that it's news just because of the founder's gender is ridiculous and trivializes the hard work and emotional roller coaster everybody involved went through.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by weego on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:46AM (#12918503)
No it doesn't, don't be ridiculous. 'Why is this getting voted up when I've never heard or the company' was my reaction to seeing it when skimming the top links this morning. It being a female founder helps answer that question without implying anything else other than what you willfully project onto others.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by ehnto on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:49AM (#12919051)
The more likely reason is that you aren't the target demographic.

Just like half the time I have never heard of the fintech startups that get thrown around here, because I am not part of the fintech news demographic.

It also probably didn't come up here because it isn't a tech startup.

However it is now a very interesting investment failure story, and that is something HN is interested in.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by staticelf on Thursday November 10, 2016 @03:11AM (#12918613)
I disagree. Why would that "trivialize" the work behind building the company? Of course the people involved care deeply about the outcome.

But for me, as a total outsider, this has 0 news worth since from my understanding the company has no real public interest except for their customers and founders/owners. AFAIK the company isn't even public so it isn't like anyone has anything invested in it.

It is for me obvious that the company bankruptcy is covered because of the gender of the founder. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't really see any other reason to why.

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by RichardCA on Thursday November 10, 2016 @12:09PM (#12922144)
If you live/work someplace like Los Angeles where "fast fashion" startups are doing a significant amount of tech hiring, it's useful to understand what they do and the difficulty of being "disruptive" in that space.

It's also useful, as a man, to have a basic understanding of the fashion industry as part of being an educated human being. You can tell a lot about a woman by how she dresses herself. Especially her shoes. :)

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by RichardCA on Thursday November 10, 2016 @02:09PM (#12923232)
Here I found it. If you require an explanation of why fashion is important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja2fgquYTCg

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by sdnguyen90 on Thursday November 10, 2016 @03:22AM (#12918646)
The company is actually extremely popular among younger women. If you're a male, you aren't really their target market for advertising.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by guitarbill on Thursday November 10, 2016 @03:53AM (#12918783)
> The company is actually extremely popular among younger women.

Maybe not that popular if they're going bankrupt?

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by RichardCA on Friday November 11, 2016 @03:43AM (#12928998)
That's the point, that you can be successful and go broke doing it.

The reason fashion is a tough nut to crack is the short business cycle and associated inventory risk. You need to anticipate fashion trends, get product to market quickly, and if you screw up you have to dump your inventory at clearance sale prices and eat that loss. Big retailers are experts at finding ways to manage that risk, and that's why the Forever 21's of the world sell crap clothing made overseas.

Seriously, when Britney Spears popularized low-rise jeans, every teenage female in the USA had to go to the mall and change out her wardrobe. When Clark Gable appeared in a movie wearing a men's dress shirt with no undershirt, the market for men's undershirts tanked.

How does one plan for that sort of thing within the constraints of a VC-backed company?

Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by sdnguyen90 on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:53AM (#12919071)
Fashion is a pretty hard industry especially when you're targeting younger people with less disposable income. If you sell your brand to the mall type retailers, your brand image is pretty much dead. If you don't sell to them, they copy your designs and sell for less anyways.
Re:Nasty Gal is expected to file for bankruptcy by totalZero on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:29AM (#12918185)
Why does anyone care, aside from the "Nasty Gal" moniker and its implications?

Edit: it's a serious question, not a rhetorically charged one. Small companies go bankrupt all the time.