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Re:Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with by didibus on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @02:33PM (#12913785)
You'll have to define lies. To me one sounds more like a hypothetical, this is the plan and this is what we hope the outcome will be like. While the other is more of a standard lie, like, I know this isn't true, but I'm telling you otherwise.

Maybe if you had more similar examples?

One thing we have to be careful about is wrong associations, equating two things that actually differ subtly. As they say, the devil is in the details.

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