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Re:California has legalized recreational marijuana by wmeredith on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @12:25PM (#12912310)
That there will be no reasonable approach is correct. pence is not a man to be reasoned with. He doesn't know whether or not evolution is real and espouses teaching intelligent design in schools. He is a climate change skeptic and he believes conversion therapy for gays should be publicly funded[1].

1. http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/28/...

Re:California has legalized recreational marijuana by DoofusOfDeath on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:46PM (#12913292)
On the surface, it sounds like your saying that Pence can't be reasoned with based on a particular conclusion he's reached.

If that's what you meant, it sounds like a bit if a logical stretch.

Re:California has legalized recreational marijuana by thomyorkie on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @02:01PM (#12913440)
If one has a tendency to reach unreasonable conclusions, is it not justified to question their ability to be reasoned with?
Re:California has legalized recreational marijuana by DoofusOfDeath on Friday November 11, 2016 @12:50AM (#12928312)
But your original post didn't simply state that you were doubtful if he could be reasoned with; you made a stronger statement: "pence is not a man to be reasoned with."

I think that stronger statement is questionable for a few reasons:

(1) It ignores the subjective element of your assessment regarding which of Pence's positions are reasonable or not reasonable. I very much doubt everyone on Hacker News would consider all of your strongly held beliefs rational, and vice versa. But that should be the starting point of our discussions, not the end of them.

(2) You gave some examples of Pence's conclusions which you consider absurd, but you didn't give clear evidence that his reasoning processes are flawed that he's "not a person to be reasoned with". For example, if you could point to some discussions where he was unable or unwilling to adhere to basic, simple rules of logic, that would bolster your case.

Re:California has legalized recreational marijuana by thomyorkie on Sunday November 13, 2016 @11:43PM (#12947619)
I don't disagree. For the record, I didn't make the original comment.
Re:California has legalized recreational marijuana by anonbanker on Thursday November 10, 2016 @09:14PM (#12926841)
such a justification is dangerous and counter-productive, should you wish to continue having the ability to empathize with others in the future.