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Re:Formation of Tesla Advanced Automation Germany by bitL on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @09:36AM (#12900526)
Hint: do Big Data & ML and let BMW, Audi and M-B fight each other to get you. 140k/year base. Externally BMW will tell you that not even managers have 80k but that's just public BS. They are pretty much in a war for talent.
Re:Formation of Tesla Advanced Automation Germany by erikb on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @09:59AM (#12900712)
This is an assumption from what would be logical or real life hiring experience? I would agree with the logical foundation, but none of the big data & ml people I know work at a car company.

As I said I only remember Zalando being active on the hiring front, and they don't do cars (yet).

Re:Formation of Tesla Advanced Automation Germany by bitL on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @10:03AM (#12900741)
Magic word is "connected services" if you want to earn big bucks in automotive working on ML/Big Data. It's a real life experience, basically in the past year all big German car manufacturers are hiring like crazy in these fields.
Re:Formation of Tesla Advanced Automation Germany by Matthias247 on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @06:08PM (#12904774)
Maybe in the US. In germany that's a senior manager salary. Independent of how good you are as a SW developer (or data scientist, ...) you will always get a normal engineer ("Sachbearbeiter") salary, which is pretty much regulated through IG Metall. And that maxes out at about 100kâ‚Ĵ (which you will have more chances to get when you are decades of years in the company than when you are new but have a great knowledge). Source: Have worked long enough for one of those companies. And always wished salaries would have been more skill/talent based.
Re:Formation of Tesla Advanced Automation Germany by Matthias247 on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @02:56AM (#12907421)
C'mon, I would appreciate comments or discussions, ideally about real life (personal) experiences instead of downvotes. What I tried to give here was also only my personal experience (and what I know from lots of friends also working in the industry).
Re:Formation of Tesla Advanced Automation Germany by bitL on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:52PM (#12913349)
I think the trick was to be hired outside unionized jobs - those had some cut off (I don't remember exactly, like 130k-140k/year), basically like the whole higher management is.