Re:They Used to Last 50 Years (2015)
by qsymmachus on Monday November 07, 2016 @07:56PM
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This is a textbook example of survivorship bias.
Survivorship bias, or survival bias, is the logical error of
concentrating on the people or things that "survived" some
process and inadvertently overlooking those that did not
because of their lack of visibility...A commonly held
opinion in many populations is that machinery, equipment,
and goods manufactured in previous generations often is
better built and lasts longer than similar contemporary
items...Again, because of the selective pressures of time
and use, it is inevitable that only those items which were
built to last will have survived into the present day.
Therefore, most of the old machinery still seen functioning
well in the present day must necessarily have been built to
a standard of quality necessary to survive.
Re:They Used to Last 50 Years (2015)
by internaut on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:59PM
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It is possible for both survivorship bias to exist and also for products to deteriorate in quality. The author is able to point to the reasons for failures rates being higher.
Some goods are better and cheaper such as electric hand tools. With white goods it is hard to get something that will last > 15 years. I'd be willing to pay twice or thrice the average price, but I don't see anything available^. I'm just hoping those new fridge linear compressors are going to do the job.
Re:They Used to Last 50 Years (2015)
by victormours on Monday November 07, 2016 @07:18PM
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There's been some talk about "bullshit jobs" lately, it seems like there's also some "bullshit companies" that end up making products we don't need to buy nearly as often as we do.
Re:They Used to Last 50 Years (2015)
by slackstation on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @02:55PM
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This takes a massive amount of capital and distribution is usually through department stores that both sell and often install the machines. Getting into department stores will be an uphill battle but, that's still less hard and cheaper than trying to make an installer network across a country.
You might initially make an enthusiast market of people willing to pay for quality and install the machines themselves but, it would have to be very specialized marketing. Maybe to people who service and repair appliances initially?
The author mentions mattresses and that market is being disrupted but, other than shipping (which seems a pretty sizable problem to solve) they don't have to worry too much about installation.
Also, the network of people to service the machines after the fact. It's hard, it will take alot of money and the most likely outcome is being purchased by one of the big companies and then they do the same thing sa before and use the brand but, make the same shitty machines underneath the disrupting company's logo.
Some goods are better and cheaper such as electric hand tools. With white goods it is hard to get something that will last > 15 years. I'd be willing to pay twice or thrice the average price, but I don't see anything available^. I'm just hoping those new fridge linear compressors are going to do the job.
^ If wrong, do tell!
Soooo anybody wanna disrupt this?
You might initially make an enthusiast market of people willing to pay for quality and install the machines themselves but, it would have to be very specialized marketing. Maybe to people who service and repair appliances initially?
The author mentions mattresses and that market is being disrupted but, other than shipping (which seems a pretty sizable problem to solve) they don't have to worry too much about installation.
Also, the network of people to service the machines after the fact. It's hard, it will take alot of money and the most likely outcome is being purchased by one of the big companies and then they do the same thing sa before and use the brand but, make the same shitty machines underneath the disrupting company's logo.