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Re:Arctic farming: Town defies icy conditions with hydroponics by drieddust on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:31AM (#12890828)
Do you have a blog post or some pictures to share? I am trying to experiment with this on a small scale, but don't really know how small I can start.
Re:Arctic farming: Town defies icy conditions with hydroponics by kw71 on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:36PM (#12896911)
I think the most remarkable part of my basement garden was that I did not put all that much effort into it. I got a Lithonia "high bay" 400 HPS fixture, reasoning that the reflector on a lamp made to be mounted high would focus the light in a smaller area. I just put a cord on it and hung it from a chain.

Except for the lamp, it is just like growing plants in pots outside, except there are 90% less insects and no hungry critters to snack on your crops.

I did some experiments with adjusting the lamp timer and long days didn't keep my beans from producing. Some plants want "seasons" but mine didn't seem to mind.

Now I have a wife, and a basement again, and we are both interested in starting a small "farm." LEDs are viable now and I want to look into this.

Re:Arctic farming: Town defies icy conditions with hydroponics by keenerd on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:36AM (#12891851)
"Space buckets" are probably the smallest scale you can easily do. With the red/blue grow LEDs you can get more usable light from a solar panel than straight sunlight can provide.

I've been looking for a change from outdoor gardening and a high density 1 m^2 indoor plot with 100W red/blue LED + 100W panel + automatic watering system sounds like a fun combination. Plus I can finally try growing tropical fruit and vegetables.

Re:Arctic farming: Town defies icy conditions with hydroponics by mmastrac on Monday November 07, 2016 @12:08PM (#12892661)
> With the red/blue grow LEDs you can get more usable light from a solar panel than straight sunlight can provide

This is interesting - do you have more information on it?

Re:Arctic farming: Town defies icy conditions with hydroponics by keenerd on Monday November 07, 2016 @03:08PM (#12894547)
I guess I messed up the math the first time around because I'm getting something different this time.

* 45% of sunlight is in the photosynthetically active wavelength range

* Solar cells are 20% efficient

* Red LEDs are 39% efficient and blue LEDs are 35% efficient

So no, I was kind of off base there. Straight sunlight is still 6x more energy for plants. But it is close! 40% efficient panels exist and my LEDs efficiency numbers were from 2012 so the gap might be smaller. If you do this calculation yourself, remember to ignore lumens. They are a human perceptual unit and are completely meaningless for plants.

Now for human-visible light it is a little different. With the most efficient solar cells and white LEDs we can do better than the sun. (Straight sunlight is 93 lumens per watt. A 40% solar cell and 250 lumen/watt LED outperforms the sun.) Maybe this is what I was thinking of.

Re:Arctic farming: Town defies icy conditions with hydroponics by drieddust on Monday November 07, 2016 @01:48PM (#12893689)
Thanks, this look interesting.