c.l.p.m. on the other hand, was a hatefest dominated by people who seemed to resent the peasants daring to touch "their" precious programming language.
I suppose we came in hordes and stormed their gates but all they really had to do was provide us with a space and that didn't happen.
Ironically, they did the same thing with the Raspberry Pi foundation reached out to them. No one responded.
I even went back to the "Perl Beginner's" mailing list and told them about the RPi Foundation and that Perl was being reviewed for the languages they would support with their Edu projects. No one responded.
At that point I don't think Larry Wall was involved much with Perl 5. And I know a few years before that he was frustrated with with lack of a cohesive path for Perl 6, and that not long ago he talked about how the Perl 6 Community had to reach out to educators and get involved with programs for kids.
The Python community did respond To the RPi Foundation when they reached out, and in a big way too. That's paid off big for them and the Foundation. Kids are growing up with Python now and will know it well and use it.
This evolution of languages has been interesting to observe.
Wow. It's always interesting to see how people can have such different takes on things. Perhaps it was the time in my programming career that I read it, but I remember being impressed with some of the programming practices it instilled. Never used Perl a whole lot, but the way Schwartz presented programming, not just Perl, I found very useful.