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Re:Fighting Loneliness with Public Living Rooms by tbihl on Sunday November 06, 2016 @10:09PM (#12888516)
The problem with this conversation (European 'let's walk everywhere' vs. American 'don't tell me how to live') is that it tends to rely on wrong assumptions from both sides, though obviously I can't read the minds of parent and GP. In the US we aggressively subsidize low-density living through school busing, infrastructure, the secondary market for federally insured single family home mortgages, and many other programs. So Europeans have a hard time recognizing that telling us to live in walkable places is like telling us to spit into the wind in so many parts of the country (after all, if a commute is bad for family, how about moving hundreds of miles from relatives?) Meanwhile, we Americans have a hard time recognizing that we're making choices on a severely biased playing field that discourages the living patterns that humans have used since the dawn of civilization.

We'll get back to the old way eventually, but it's going to hurt bad for a lot of people.

Re:Fighting Loneliness with Public Living Rooms by closeparen on Sunday November 06, 2016 @11:43PM (#12888865)
"The old way" is subsistence agriculture. If we're really going back there, we'll be too busy wrestling with questions like "will the harvest be enough to feed me this year?" and "will my child die of this treatable infection?" and "what are cars?" to worry about parking :).

>it's going to hurt bad for a lot of people.

Well yes, anything that ends the economic conditions which make current residential arrangements appropriate will have significant consequences.

Re:Fighting Loneliness with Public Living Rooms by mzw_mzw on Monday November 07, 2016 @02:13AM (#12889438)
It's so generous of you to acknowledge how both sides are wrong: Americans are wrong to want to live the way they do, while Europeans are wrong to not realize how severely deluded, wasteful, and out of touch with humanity Americans are.
Re:Fighting Loneliness with Public Living Rooms by tbihl on Monday November 07, 2016 @06:33PM (#12896276)
Sure, you could express it that way, but mine includes some empathy, whereas yours is so carefully protected against the possibility of anyone benefitting from it: not Americans, because you're pushing us away by calling us stupid; and not Europeans, because you don't attempt to help anyone understand why others are so determined to be wrong.