Why I won't recommend Signal anymore

Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by exo762 on Sunday November 06, 2016 @05:07AM (#12884381)

You are assuming that Android reports on every step you take. Do you have sources backing this claim?

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by jhasse on Sunday November 06, 2016 @05:22AM (#12884423)

It's nearly impossible to find out. But if I trust corporations like Google not to exploit the possibilities, I wouldn't be looking for an open-source alternative to WhatsApp in the first place.

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by exo762 on Sunday November 06, 2016 @05:29AM (#12884454)

Signal is not positioned as a tool for possible TAO targets. Never was, and never will be. Don't use it and please stop spreading the FUD.

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by kuschku on Sunday November 06, 2016 @07:14AM (#12884757)

> Signal is not positioned as a tool for possible TAO targets. Never was, and never will be.

Eh, that’s exactly what it is currently advertised as.

A tool, supported by Snowden, to be used by journalists who are at risk of being under active surveillance by state actors.

That is the very definition of a TAO target.

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by jospoortvliet on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @06:24AM (#12899339)

You shouldn't use a smartphone if you expect to be TAO. Even the hardware could be compromised. Use a laptop with Linux for anything anyone might want to track...

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by kuschku on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @10:01AM (#12910712)

Then why is Moxie advertising with Snowden the Signal app as communication for TAO targets?

And for non-TAO targets, WhatsApp is just as good as Signal – the users won’t read the source code anyway, and in both cases President Trump gets your social graph.

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by jhasse on Sunday November 06, 2016 @05:43AM (#12884501)

What exactly is a TAO target?

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by ethbro on Sunday November 06, 2016 @01:35PM (#12886379)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailored_Access_Operations

Aka NSA's "we really need to get access to this device and will fund diverting backbone traffic / writing firmware malware / whatever else we need to in order to get it" team(s).

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by Kimm0n0 on Sunday November 06, 2016 @08:36AM (#12884982)

Tailored Access Operations from the NSA

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by type0 on Sunday November 06, 2016 @08:15AM (#12884924)

terrible acronym obviously

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by curried_haskell on Sunday November 06, 2016 @08:26AM (#12884951)

Google has root on your phone. Even if they aren't "for now", good security sense says that we should assume that are.

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Re:Why I won't recommend Signal anymore by fnordfnordfnord on Sunday November 06, 2016 @03:28PM (#12886885)

It did formerly via Carrier IQ, which was widely reported in the press. So that's not unprecedented.

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