Sure but lots of other people had that luck too. I mean, they all went to computer club meetings and spoke openly about what they were working on. How many other people at those club meetings founded transformational computer companies that survive today, let alone as one of the most valuable companies in the world?

Even within Apple there are stories of guys like Mike Scott, who was the 2nd CEO and took Apple public. He was there at the beginning, got super rich, but what was his long-term impact [1]? Have you ever even heard of him, outside of a Steve Jobs bio?

[1] He has arguably had a longer-term impact on the mineralogy of gems than in computing.

It's not pure luck. It's not pure talent/drive/etc. It's the mixture of the two.

And yes, I had heard of Mike Scott, but I'm an old geek who's a Bay Area native.

> It's not pure luck. It's not pure talent/drive/etc. It's the mixture of the two.

I agree with that. I interpreted your comment above as over-emphasizing luck; perhaps a misinterpretation.

A lot of other people met Woz too. HP turned Woz's idea down. I think it was Woz's luck he met Jobs.