You can’t fix diversity in tech without fixing the technical interview

Re:You can’t fix diversity in tech without fixing the techni... by balls187 on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @07:55PM (#12860457)

As asked elsewhere--what systemic bias exists that targets certain women (white, black, mexican), but not women of other races (particularly Chinese, Indian and Russian)?

Perhaps instead, it's because schools (government?) in Russia, India, and China have emphasized Computer Science, and produce higher number of female grads.

Anecdotally, I attended a tiny engineering school in the midwest, and pretty much all the grad students were international students--women from India and China.

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Re:You can’t fix diversity in tech without fixing the techni... by rhizome on Thursday November 03, 2016 @06:56PM (#12868828)

what systemic bias exists that targets certain women (white, black, mexican), but not women of other races (particularly Chinese, Indian and Russian)?

Well, from what GP said, it may be attributable to the culture itself:

"a culture difference between groups who are well represented in engineering, and groups which are not."

Which is to equate (or conflate) systemic bias and cultural difference. In other words, it sounds to me like, "it's not systemic bias, prejudice just comes from people doing the things." It's just a simple substitution, because "systemic" refers to a system, not an overarching one, so while we may not be able to ascribe these tendencies in The Technology Sector (or similar large group), systems have subsystems (a la culture vs. subculture), and it may be that those are where bias becomes encoded.

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Re:You can’t fix diversity in tech without fixing the techni... by kolokolo on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @10:51PM (#12861268)

TIL Russian women are not white.

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Re:You can’t fix diversity in tech without fixing the techni... by pluma on Thursday November 03, 2016 @08:19AM (#12863346)

Newsflash: "race" is a bullshit concept that's a leaky abstraction on top of "ethnicities" at best (which is in turn a leaky abstraction on top of genetics and ancestry).

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Re:You can’t fix diversity in tech without fixing the techni... by dijit on Thursday November 03, 2016 @06:57AM (#12862850)

Some are, some aren't. Russia is big.

Also, we take it to mean that he's talking about traditionally western culture, Russia doesn't have a western culture.

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