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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by contingencies on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @05:17PM (#12850098)
We were discussing current touch technology, not future haptic what-ifs.

Bandwidth is information transferred over time. Whether you are discussing input (push/gesture max) or output (can't see the screen because hand is in the way), current-era touch is inferior to traditional input systems.

You failed to provide even one example of a creative use of touchscreens, except a vague music reference. I've seen those apps too, they are frustrating to work with and any serious musician would use a (musical) keyboard with real velocity support in preference.

I agree UIs need to move forward, I simply disagree that current-era touch is creative or high enough bandwidth to get us anywhere useful.

Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by WorldMaker on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @05:33PM (#12850236)
Well, I was originally discussing the merits of just making the MBP screen touch friendly (using current technology) rather than the half-step of the Touch Bar. Why corral touch to just a tiny, sub-screen, if the touch is useful enough to add the bar in the first place? Again, my fascination here is primarily with the people that like the Touch Bar but don't think a Touch Screen would be useful, given how important it was to the original iPhone that the whole thing was touch capable. If the Touch Bar is useful, then a full touch screen would be surely be more useful?

From that perspective a touch screen, even with current technology, is still more bandwidth than no touch screen at all and more creative than no touch screen at all... I'd argue that does get us somewhere useful.

I don't think the onus here is on me to provide examples of how useful that may be, but on you to explain why perfect is not the enemy of the good, in this particular case.

Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by contingencies on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @05:51PM (#12850344)
No, you argued it was superior, then failed to expound any actual evidence.