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Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by Razengan on Sunday October 30, 2016 @10:03PM (#12833804)
> models now are 16gb of ram only (can someone explain this one?)

Which other laptop were you going to buy that supports more than 16 GB? How much does it cost? What's it size, weight, color depth and battery life?

As far as I know, the new Surface Book also only supports 16 GB of RAM. Or the new Razer Blade. The Razer Blade Pro can have 32GB of RAM, but it is twice as heavy and twice the volume of the 15" MBP.

Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by fgandiya on Sunday October 30, 2016 @10:49PM (#12833992)
Lenovo have a bunch of laptops which support 32GB and even 64GB RAM at under $2k like the T460. Then again, some of them don't have great SSDs or displays.

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/landingpage/promotions/weekly-s...

Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by yuhong on Sunday October 30, 2016 @10:32PM (#12833918)
The standard two slot SO-DIMM laptops can support 32 GB now thanks to 8Gbit DDR4. There was also 8Gbit DDR3 that is less common and more expensive, but is supported by Broadwell for example.
Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by toyg on Monday October 31, 2016 @12:25AM (#12834298)
The field was even more scarce 4 years ago. At the time, 16gb in a laptop was extremely rare. Apple won a lot of business (including mine) by showing that it was possible. Some people (including me) thought they would have spent some of the following 4 years figuring out how to keep moving up. Unfortunately, it looks like they actually spent that time pushing an MBP into an MBA chassis and adding a touch sensor that other manufacturers were shipping 10 years ago.
Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by dingaling on Monday October 31, 2016 @02:40AM (#12834697)
> The field was even more scarce 4 years ago

Dell Precision and HP EliteBook W series had more than 16GB well before that; several in the company where I worked had 20 and 24GB. Neither was obscure or exotic, both were aimed at the same professional market and were 'standard issue' for the top-tier in many large companies.

Apr 2011 ... the EliteBook 8540w can accommodate up to 32GB of memory

April 25, 2011 ... The Precision mobile workstations can handle up to 32GB of 1333MHz RAM and 16GB 1600MHz RAM

Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by toyg on Monday October 31, 2016 @05:50AM (#12835419)
> Dell Precision and HP EliteBook W

... were (and are) big-ass mobile workstations. MBPr were much lighter and thinner but still super-powerful - there was no competition in that weight/volume segment. Today, with Dell XPS, Razer, Surface and so on (even the Purism Librem is basically the same shape), we have plenty of alternatives in that segment, so there were two options really: move into the Air segment, or raise the bar for performance again. They chose the former, people complaining were expecting the latter.

Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by yuhong on Monday October 31, 2016 @12:34AM (#12834331)
Yea, it was 4Gbit DDR3 DRAM that made it possible in most laptops. We are now moving to 8Gbit DDR4.
Re:Open Letter to Tim Cook by anexprogrammer on Monday October 31, 2016 @12:14AM (#12834255)
Compare the new rMBP against a Thinkpad P50 that is much cheaper yet 4K, Xeon and upto 64GB.

It's a bit of a hulk being the weight of a 2012 MBP.