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Re:Step-by-step tutorial to build a modern JavaScript stack ... by giancarlostoro on Saturday October 29, 2016 @02:28PM (#12825516)
I've never been a front-end guy, and now the barrier grows with all these frameworks to make amazing applications still holding me back. Plus the fact that if I have NoScript installed, all my work is now pointless. I hate going to websites that literally don't work @ all if I have no JavaScript enabled, with the exception of HN and those rare sites that have minimal JavaScript in use.
Re:Step-by-step tutorial to build a modern JavaScript stack ... by beejiu on Saturday October 29, 2016 @03:42PM (#12825917)
> I hate going to websites that literally don't work @ all if I have no JavaScript enabled

It is no surprise that businesses don't want to spend an extra 20% development time supporting 0.5% of web users. At some point, it becomes a problem for the user - you cannot support everyone.

Re:Step-by-step tutorial to build a modern JavaScript stack ... by Touche on Saturday October 29, 2016 @11:07PM (#12827931)
Progressive enhancement isn't about people with JS turned off. It's about resiliency to failures. That might be network congestion, it might be a mistake in your code, or something else.
Re:Step-by-step tutorial to build a modern JavaScript stack ... by astrobe_ on Saturday October 29, 2016 @03:51PM (#12825973)
Except they could spare 200% development time with only HTML+CSS. Many times the real motivation is monetization. Simple sites like HN that don't get revenue from readership don't need Javascript.
Re:Step-by-step tutorial to build a modern JavaScript stack ... by CaptSpify on Saturday October 29, 2016 @04:43PM (#12826254)
Agreed. Why spend more effort making sites less usable for everyone? If you keep things small and simple, you spend less time developing and they are more resilient