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Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by komali2 on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:15PM (#12820786)
My understanding of inherent might not be right, then. I think of it as "it is definitely a danger, and thus can only be described as dangerous," which I would argue is not mutually exclusive with possible but is mutually exclusive with "not always dangerous and maybe even anti-dangerous."

So what I mean is, the autopilot could turn out to be safer than manual, in my mind, so how is it "inherently" dangerous.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by dpark on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:59PM (#12821121)
A swimming pool in your backyard is an inherent danger. That doesn't mean anyone will be injured or killed, but a deep body of water with sheer walls is inherently dangerous.

It would nonetheless also be accurate to describe it as a possible danger, because the danger only manifests in certain circumstances.

> So what I mean is, the autopilot could turn out to be safer than manual, in my mind, so how is it "inherently" dangerous.

That could well be the case but I don't think it eliminates the inherent danger. Maybe it's less dangerous, but cars on the road are just kind of dangerous in general.

I think it's also very generous to assume that the early auto pilot car systems we have today are necessarily safer than human drivers. Emergency braking is almost certainly a net gain. Self driving might be or might not be. A self driving add-on cooked up by geohot? I'm doubtful it's yet gone through the kind of engineering rigor we'd expect of a system like this.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by yellowapple on Saturday October 29, 2016 @04:01AM (#12823101)
"So what I mean is, the autopilot could turn out to be safer than manual, in my mind, so how is it "inherently" dangerous."

In the same way that the ocean is still inherently dangerous even if you're wearing a life jacket, or how airplanes are still inherently dangerous even though aircraft autopilot systems are effectively mainstream at this point.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by jacquesm on Saturday October 29, 2016 @03:37AM (#12823039)
It's inherently dangerous because it's a bunch of hardware and software that take over a 2 ton vehicle to turn it into a software guided missile. That's an inherently dangerous set-up that will need a lot of thinking to keep it safe for general use.

Just like a piano suspended from a rope is inherently dangerous. The danger may not manifest at all for that to be the case.