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Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by zeveb on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:42PM (#12820480)
> That's an obvious part of a government's duty to keep it's citizens safe.

Which article of the Constitution is that? I don't seem to recall it.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by abduhl on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:27PM (#12820896)
I believe it's in the Preamble:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Keeping its citizens safe would likely fall under general welfare.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by zeveb on Monday October 31, 2016 @11:19AM (#12837522)
The Preamble doesn't delegate any power from the several states to the United States, though.
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by quakeguy on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:50PM (#12821054)
Correct.
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by webXL on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:09PM (#12820735)
And this is how "asshole" gets associated with "libertarians". In order to maximize personal freedom, you need property rights and people to enforce those rights. Just because the government's powers have grown well-beyond what's specified in the Constitution doesn't mean it shouldn't have certain powers.
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by scblock on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:56PM (#12820609)
I'm surprised you haven't learned yet that the constitution grants authority to congress to pass laws, which include laws related to safety.
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by zeveb on Monday October 31, 2016 @11:22AM (#12837562)
> I'm surprised you haven't learned yet that the constitution grants authority to congress to pass laws, which include laws related to safety.

Have you actually read Article I, Section 8? You'll have to squint very, very hard to see any authority to pass laws related to safety in it. That's because it's simply not there. The state governments, of course, do have that power, and the Congress arguably has power to regulate cars used in interstate commerce.

But there's simply no constitutional scope for safety regulation of cars built & used in only one state.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by pritambaral on Monday October 31, 2016 @02:44PM (#12839728)
Have you read the NHTSA letter? They talk about prohibiting interstate commerce if the product doesn't meet safety standards.

Instead of nitpicking, let's focus on the actual issue. The NHTSA didn't order Hotz to shut it down, it merely asked about the safety of the product, which led to Hotz shutting it down himself.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by vtlynch on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:01PM (#12820648)
You say this in a snide way as if it would be a good thing if governments didn't try to keep us safe.

It also raises the question of what you think the Bill of Right's purpose is.

Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by chme on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:50PM (#12820551)
I am not from the US, but they surely have some legislation that makes building and selling killing machines, without at least some government controlled safety checks, illegal.
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by chim3 on Saturday October 29, 2016 @02:26AM (#12822869)
>killing machines You mean like guns?
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by chme on Saturday October 29, 2016 @04:01PM (#12826024)
In my slightly sarcastic definition "killing machines" are every machine that causes people to die.
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by celticninja on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:47PM (#12820520)
The US government is not the only government.
Re:George Hotz cancels his Tesla Autopilot-like ‘comma one’ by firasd on Friday October 28, 2016 @06:21PM (#12821267)
The Commerce Clause is often invoked in this type of regulation